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Hyundai Azera vs. Volkswagen Passat vs. Buick LaCrosse

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Azera vs. Passat vs. LaCrosse by averigejoe
Nov 19, 2005 (11:28 pm)
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You are a shopper with $30,000. Which do you buy and why?
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Azera vs Buick Lucerne by dgxnavy
Nov 20, 2005 (10:52 am)
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Hi I am getting into this discussion. I just test drove a Buick Lucerne and I like what I see nad like how it handles. It has just about everything that the Azera has and a little more in some areas. The Azera does have some additional items as far as safety and handling is concerned. If the Azera doesn't hurry up and put them in thedealers hands so that I can test drive it for my final determination I am going to just buy the Lucerne. The cost to me will be just about the same as the Azera because I can get a huge discount on the GM product.
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Re: Azera vs Buick Lucerne [dgxnavy] by averigejoe
Nov 23, 2005 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: dgxnavy (Nov 20, 2005 10:52 am)

I bet the Lucerne is a really nice car and an excellent choice.
I'm noticing that the Lucerne CXL V6, $28,265, has a lot less horsepower 197 and more weight 3969 than the Limited Azera's 263 and 3572. So the Azera will likely feel much more lively when you hit the gas. Usually a lighter car will handle better too in cars of this type.
The $35,265 CXS Lucerne has a 275 HP V8, pretty close to the Azera. Equipment levels on the two are pretty close too. The CXL versions of the Buicks do not have as much standard equipment as the Azera Limited.
Price-wise, the CXL versions of the Lucerne and LaCrosse are about $1650 more than the Azera's $27,000 estimated price. The LaCrosse makes 240 HP and weighs very close to the Azera. The CXS Lucerne is $8650 more than the Azera Limited.
How big is the GM discount?
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Re: Azera vs. Passat vs. LaCrosse [averigejoe] by bjbird2
Nov 20, 2005 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: averigejoe (Nov 19, 2005 11:28 pm)

Test drive them all and make your decision.
I have a 2002 Passat, and it's been one of the best of the 30 or so cars that I've owned. It handles and rides well, has decent acceleration with the turbo, and gets up to 33mpg on the highway, 26 around town. The interior is gorgeous. The only drawback has been below par reliability, but nothing that wasn't covered under warantee.
What's an Azera?
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Re: Azera vs. Passat vs. LaCrosse [bjbird2] by averigejoe
Nov 20, 2005 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: bjbird2 (Nov 20, 2005 12:54 pm)

Azera is Hyundai's new top-of-the-line sedan. It is much larger than the Passat. Azera has 106.9 cu. ft. for passengers and 17 in the trunk.
The 2006 Passat has 96 for passengers and 14.2 in the trunk. I think the 2002 had 95 cu. ft. for passengers.
Has a lot of safety and luxury features and a 10 year powertrain warranty. Appears to be very similar to the Toyota Avalon overall, but cheaper.
The Azera should be in the showrooms soon.
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Re:Pricing according to Motorweek [averigejoe] by averigejoe
Nov 20, 2005 (3:20 pm)
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#384 of 396 Re: A Bit of Insight [1racefan] by averigejoe Nov 18, 2005 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: 1racefan (Nov 18, 2005 12:50 pm)
 
Azera will start at under $25,000 for the SE model and under $27,000 for the Limited. This fits in perfectly with Hyundai's long standing strategy of offering higher content, while undercutting entrenched rivals on price and warranty. Azera's powertrain protection runs 7-years and 100,000 miles.
  
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2511b.shtml
 
BUT NOTICE THEY GOT THE WARRANTY WRONG. ACTUALLY IS 10/100,000 ON POWERTRAIN. HOPE THE PRICES ARE RIGHT.
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Re:Pricing according to Motorweek [averigejoe] by 1racefan
Nov 21, 2005 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: averigejoe (Nov 20, 2005 3:20 pm)

That's cool about the pricing. I was just afraid Hyundai would hit the $30K + range. I have said before (and still stand-by it) that the US market isn't ready to accept a $30K + Hyundai at this point in the game.
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Re: Azera vs. Passat vs. LaCrosse [averigejoe] by inajoong
Nov 21, 2005 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: averigejoe (Nov 19, 2005 11:28 pm)

I'd have to test drive the Azera first, but so far, from what car sites are saying, it looks like a winner.
 
I test drove the LaCrosse about a year ago and was VERY impressed, very smooth and luxurious, and am a current VW owner(jetta) and love the interrior and the ride. However, neither cars offer the luxury features that the azera offers(rear sunshade, mp3..). Along with the size and that kick-ass engine, I really think the Azera is a winner.
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Yeah, since when has by iluvmysephia1
Nov 21, 2005 (11:12 am)
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Hyundai cut the Long-Haul down in years? You can tell that Motorweek has been overdosing on Detroit products for way too long. Get with the program, here, men. It is and has been South Korean for several years!
 
What other choice do you have?
 
Get the Azera and relax.
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Re: Azera vs Buick's Lucerne and LaCrosse [averigejoe] by averigejoe
Nov 21, 2005 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: averigejoe (Nov 23, 2005 7:53 am)

Price, weight and similar V6 power of the LaCrosse makes it a closer competitor to Azera Limited than is the Lucerne.
But adding the necessary options to the LaCrosse to make it as close as possible to the Azera Limited's standard equipment adds $3090 to the LaCrosse MSRP. Grand total $32,185.
And even then the LaCrosse has no memory seats, no front side air bags, no rear side air bags, and no cassette player. The Lacrosse, at 99 cu. ft. passenger volume, is much smaller than Azera's 107. The Azera's 2000 lb. towing capacity is twice that of LaCrosse. And the Azera bumper to bumper warranty is 5 yrs/60,000 miles instead of LaCrosse's 4 yr/50K. The Azera has 10 yrs/100,000 miles on the powertrain.
The Azera Limited MSRP is apparently under $28,000 including shipping, maybe even under $27,000.

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