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Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [dawghouse]
by poeti18
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Aug 01, 2005 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: dawghouse (Aug 01, 2005 3:02 pm)
Although I can't answer your specific questions ( changes for 2006), I can assure you, that the "old" automatic ( I have the 04 S60R automatic) is plenty agile and fun for day-to-day driving. I too compromised on the tranny secondary to wife/stick issues. However, I have no regrets.
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Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [poeti18]
by dawghouse
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Aug 05, 2005 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: poeti18 (Aug 01, 2005 5:58 pm)
Well, we went ahead with the 2005 R two days ago ... figuring that I'd already cashed in all my 'brownies' with the wife talking her into the R instead of the 2.5T or T5, there just wasn't enough to justify the extra cost, and wait, for the 2006 R. I got a 2005 R loaded with everything except the sports skirts package for $2K under invoice. The 2006 would have meant probably $2k over invoice and a wait ... so at a minimum a $4K spread to improve the 0-60 time. That just doesn't compute with the wife ... put together female DNA and a CPA and I've got a 'no contest' situation versus my testosterone. If I'd actually made the play for justifying $4K to shave off a second from 0-60 ... I'd probably just get the blank stare.
Am I right in my understanding that after you get up into 3rd gear in the GT, that the torque limit between the 2005 & 2006 would be similar, i.e., the changes in the 2006 mostly address off-the-line acceleration ... but 40-100+ the two cars would be pretty similar in acceleration? The AWD changes in 06 sound like they are limited to torque pre-charging for off-the-line, but once you're rolling the AWD behavior should be very similar, i.e., the 06 change isn't a permanent bias to send more power to the rear wheels, just a bias for the initial launch. Is this a correct assessment?
Maybe I can talk my way into an Evolve powerchip upgrade down the road ... still wouldn't be as quick as the 2006, but close. Anyone have some quantitative info on whether the 5-speed GT auto can handle the occasional 288 ft/lbs ... for average city/hwy driving, not talking about taking it out onto the track every weekend. If I were a weekend rally type of guy, I'd have waited for the 06.
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Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [agsastar]
by mike048
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Aug 05, 2005 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: agsastar (Jul 24, 2005 9:50 am)
2005 G35x - Graphite/Graphite Premium Pkg C, with splash guards and floor mats - full size spare. No Nav. $32,600 I bought the extended warranty for an extra $1,000 bumping it up to 7years/100,000. Miller Infiniti in Sherman Oaks.
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Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [dawghouse]
by nodecaf
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Aug 10, 2005 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: dawghouse (Aug 05, 2005 9:07 am)
While my R is manual tranny (wife refuses to drive auto), the powerchip replacement is a wonderful thing. My '04 came with a wrong chip originally that limited it to 13x top speed, so the chip was replaced as a recall. Not that I'd notice moving at city speed normally, but it did help with both low end and high-end acceleration if and when I'm able to get on the expressway (oxymoron if I ever heard one). Not exactly apples to apples comparison, but hope that helps.
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Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [dawghouse]
by djc93
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Sep 26, 2005 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: dawghouse (Aug 01, 2005 3:02 pm)
Does anyone know is there any big difference in speed with the automatic for 2005 and the new six speed for 2006?
Any other rmajor differences between 2005 and 2006 - like the AWD system?
Reason is that I can get an 05 leftover at a real good deal - but I don't want to make the worng decision over a few K.
Thanks.
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Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [djc93]
by marcelov
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Oct 01, 2005 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: djc93 (Sep 26, 2005 6:08 pm)
The 04 to 05 did not change much of anything.. the most changes was in the outside of the car, and the 6 presets in the radio (instead of the dial presets for 20).
If you are trying to get the most value and I sugeest you look at the 04 S60R. There are not many for sell, but if you search you can find them. A good deal for a low 30s... in a car that will last almost for ever.
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Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [dawghouse]
by chinky11
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Feb 13, 2006 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: dawghouse (Aug 01, 2005 3:02 pm)
hey my dad recently bought the 2005 volvo s60r. its a 5speed auto. i have seen and have ridden in the new 06 model. i have been into cars my whole life and what what i think is that the 05 and the 06 models differ is i think the 06 runs the same horse power but with but with a little more low end torque off the line. my dad raced a new 05 infiniti g35x turbo'd and exhaust and smoked him w/o his foot to the floor. the handling is fe nominal it sticks to the road like no other. serious. i dont think it matter much about the new 06 its just preference of knowing you have the newest model.
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S60r
by dhamilton
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Feb 13, 2006 (8:54 pm)
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I drove the S60r and found it to be a nice car. In comparison to the A4 I find it apples to oranges. I find it hard to compare any non-German car to a German make. The Volvo is fast to be sure and has a nice interior. The steering and gear box feel is relagated to second.. no third class citizen status IMO. These are very important benchmarks for me, thus negating any advantage in speed the Vovo had over the Audi. I have an S4 on order so I guess my wallet has spoken.
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Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [chinky11]
by quasiactuary
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Feb 14, 2006 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: chinky11 (Feb 13, 2006 7:49 pm)
There is absolutely no way that a s60r (300hp) smoked a turbo'd g35x w/o flooring it. There is no way that a s60r smoked a non-turbo'd g35x (280hp) w/o flooring it. A s60r is a little faster than a non-turbo'd g35x, but not by enough that it could "smoke" a g35x w/o flooring it.
If your dad smoked a g35x w/o flooring it then the g35x wasn't racing and/or it wasn't turbo'd.
S60r is a very nice (and fast) car, but there is no way that it would smoke a turbo'd g35x when a non-turbo'd g35x has virtually the same power as the s60r. No way.
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Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [agsastar]
by swapdriver
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Feb 26, 2006 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: agsastar (Jul 24, 2005 9:50 am)
If you are concerned with reliability and durability,after the warranty, do not buy a German AWD car. I own a 1999 A4 Quattro and it is has not been reliable or durable. In less than 60K miles I'v had to replace both left and right front control arms (Audi recall), and at my expense both rear wheel bearings. In 50 years of car ownership, I have never replaced a wheel bearing, let alone 2 on the same car. I would stick with a Japanese car, the G35x or the new Lexus IS-250 AWD.
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