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#1 of 37 Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) by agsastar Jul 24, 2005 (9:50 am)
I am close to buying (no lease) one of these 3 but can't decide on which one! I have test driven them all, they all have different performance each with pros and cons. I plan on owning the car past the warranty life of 4 years so I am also concerned about reliability. Also, what kind of out the door price can I expect on these models? (plan to pay cash, live in SoCal) Any input would be appreciated. Replies to this message: frisconick (Jul 24, 2005 10:04 am) klpeel (Jul 25, 2005 1:01 pm) mnrep2 (Jul 25, 2005 3:24 pm) frisconick (Jul 25, 2005 4:11 pm) klpeel (Jul 27, 2005 4:24 am) mike048 (Aug 05, 2005 4:02 pm) swapdriver (Feb 26, 2006 7:36 am) markcincinnati (Feb 27, 2006 7:17 am) kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 29, 2006 11:33 am) esf (Apr 12, 2006 7:02 pm) ingvar (Jun 19, 2009 4:32 am) cretinx (Jun 13, 2007 5:55 pm) leskapaul (Jun 15, 2007 6:53 am)
#2 of 37 Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [agsastar] by frisconick Jul 24, 2005 (10:04 am)
Replying to: agsastar (Jul 24, 2005 9:50 am) Japanese cars, in general, are the most reliable, the Volvo is boring imho. The Audi is very nice, but I would go with the G.
#3 of 37 Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [agsastar] by klpeel Jul 25, 2005 (1:01 pm)
Replying to: agsastar (Jul 24, 2005 9:50 am) It may not be an issue with you, but I just bought the G35x, and my decision process was much the same as I wanted an AWD. The cost of getting comparable to the G35x in the Audi and Volvo S60R was something I just couldn't justify. If I remember right, both require getting up (possibly well up) into the 40s, where you can hit the G35x in the mid to upper 30s.
#4 of 37 Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [agsastar] by mnrep2 Jul 25, 2005 (3:24 pm)
Replying to: agsastar (Jul 24, 2005 9:50 am) I also chose the G35x. A friend has the A4, I came from a 2000 Passat. Wanted to get away from the fwd bias of those two cars. The G has a much larger interior than the Audi as well. I am truly impressed so far with the G. Fast and quiet with great handling. AWD and stability control are awesome as well. I test drove the car this past winter and found the AWD to be very unobtrusive and confidence inspiring. Great ability to start and turn on slippery surfaces.   I also believe that you will have much better long term ownership bliss with the infiniti vs. the other two. My Passat needed a $1,200.00 timing belt change shortly!! You don't have to worry about that particular issue with the G.   Finally, bought the car with every option except chrome wheels for $36,500.00 + TTL. Replies to this message: frisconick (Jul 25, 2005 4:11 pm) klpeel (Jul 27, 2005 4:24 am)
#5 of 37 Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [mnrep2] by frisconick Jul 25, 2005 (4:11 pm)
Replying to: mnrep2 (Jul 25, 2005 3:24 pm) Enjoy your new ride! I think you made an excellent choice.
#6 of 37 Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [mnrep2] by klpeel Jul 27, 2005 (4:24 am)
Replying to: mnrep2 (Jul 25, 2005 3:24 pm) mnrep2,   That is exactly the same transition I made (from the 2000 Passat). I am very happy with the move. The G35x is quick, powerful, smooth and agile. I find that I miss only one thing from the Passat GLX, and that is the auto locking doors at 10 MPH, which is minor enough given the huge improvements in almost every other way. The only thing that really bugs me about the G35x is the lumpy seat bottom on the right side of the drivers seat (to accomodate the brain-dead location of the seat controls). Driving with my wallet in my left back pocket is bad enough (on long drives I always take it out). It makes me feel like I'm sitting on a second wallet on the right side ... only wish I could take it out as well!
#7 of 37 Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 by dawghouse Aug 01, 2005 (3:02 pm)
I've read that the 2006 S60R comes with a 6-speed auto, and a change to the AWD system for shifting more power to the rear wheels on launch. I'm looking at the S60R ... wife requires the Auto-trans, refuses to deal with the stick (hey, at least I won the 'R' debate, even if I have to compromise on the tranny ). Anyone know if the new 6-speed has the same torque specs as the 2005 5-speed auto, i.e., did Volvo make it robust enough to dial the torque back up to the manual-trans spec? Or is it still pretty much the same spec as the 5-speed?   Also, anyone know much about the 2006 changes in the AWD system?   I'm close to purchasing a 2005 for a couple-K under invoice with model year end incentives ... just wondering if waiting for the 2006 is worth the extra cost (probably $3-$4K). I don't intend to take it to the track ... and the wife certainly isn't ... so I'm not too concerned about shaving off a few tenths from the standing quarter mile. Just like a it to be 'quick' and agile for my day-to-day driving. Replies to this message: poeti18 (Aug 01, 2005 5:58 pm) dawghouse (Aug 05, 2005 9:07 am) nodecaf (Aug 10, 2005 12:42 pm) djc93 (Sep 26, 2005 6:08 pm) marcelov (Oct 01, 2005 12:53 pm) chinky11 (Feb 13, 2006 7:49 pm) quasiactuary (Feb 14, 2006 1:27 pm) zheka212 (Apr 13, 2006 7:34 am) and 2 more... magoon (Jun 12, 2006 9:00 am) roy_l (Jul 10, 2006 5:26 pm)
#8 of 37 Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [dawghouse] by poeti18 Aug 01, 2005 (5:58 pm)
Replying to: dawghouse (Aug 01, 2005 3:02 pm) Although I can't answer your specific questions ( changes for 2006), I can assure you, that the "old" automatic ( I have the 04 S60R automatic) is plenty agile and fun for day-to-day driving. I too compromised on the tranny secondary to wife/stick issues. However, I have no regrets. Replies to this message: dawghouse (Aug 05, 2005 9:07 am) nodecaf (Aug 10, 2005 12:42 pm)
#9 of 37 Re: Question on 2006 S60R versus 2005 [poeti18] by dawghouse Aug 05, 2005 (9:07 am)
Replying to: poeti18 (Aug 01, 2005 5:58 pm) Well, we went ahead with the 2005 R two days ago ... figuring that I'd already cashed in all my 'brownies' with the wife talking her into the R instead of the 2.5T or T5, there just wasn't enough to justify the extra cost, and wait, for the 2006 R. I got a 2005 R loaded with everything except the sports skirts package for $2K under invoice. The 2006 would have meant probably $2k over invoice and a wait ... so at a minimum a $4K spread to improve the 0-60 time. That just doesn't compute with the wife ... put together female DNA and a CPA and I've got a 'no contest' situation versus my testosterone. If I'd actually made the play for justifying $4K to shave off a second from 0-60 ... I'd probably just get the blank stare.   Am I right in my understanding that after you get up into 3rd gear in the GT, that the torque limit between the 2005 & 2006 would be similar, i.e., the changes in the 2006 mostly address off-the-line acceleration ... but 40-100+ the two cars would be pretty similar in acceleration? The AWD changes in 06 sound like they are limited to torque pre-charging for off-the-line, but once you're rolling the AWD behavior should be very similar, i.e., the 06 change isn't a permanent bias to send more power to the rear wheels, just a bias for the initial launch. Is this a correct assessment?   Maybe I can talk my way into an Evolve powerchip upgrade down the road ... still wouldn't be as quick as the 2006, but close. Anyone have some quantitative info on whether the 5-speed GT auto can handle the occasional 288 ft/lbs ... for average city/hwy driving, not talking about taking it out onto the track every weekend. If I were a weekend rally type of guy, I'd have waited for the 06. Replies to this message: nodecaf (Aug 10, 2005 12:42 pm)
#10 of 37 Re: Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs. Infinity G35x vs. Volvo S60R (AWD-geartronic) [agsastar] by mike048 Aug 05, 2005 (4:02 pm)
Replying to: agsastar (Jul 24, 2005 9:50 am) 2005 G35x - Graphite/Graphite Premium Pkg C, with splash guards and floor mats - full size spare. No Nav. $32,600 I bought the extended warranty for an extra $1,000 bumping it up to 7years/100,000. Miller Infiniti in Sherman Oaks.

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