Last post on May 30, 2007 at 9:42 AM
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Acura TL, Lexus IS, Lexus IS 350, Sedan
#424 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [louiswei]
Sep 01, 2006 (9:12 am)
TL Type-S Engine
3.5-liter SOHC V-6 aluminum alloy engine
286 hp at 6200 rpm and 256 lb-ft of torque at 5000 rpm
Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC®)
Dual-stage induction system with lightweight magnesium intake manifold
Cold-air intake system
High flow, sport tuned exhaust system with quad finishers (Type-S)
Computer-controlled Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI)
Direct ignition system
Compact in-head exhaust manifolds
High flow close-coupled catalytic converters plus under floor catalytic converter
High capacity 32-bit RISC processor engine control unit
105,000 mile tune-up intervals
6-Speed Manual Transmission (TL Type-S only)
Close ratio spacing for maximum performance
Multi-cone synchronizers (first through fourth gears)
Reverse lock-out feature prevents accidental engagement
Lightweight high-pressure-cast aluminum-alloy transmission housing
Improved clutch feel for smoother engagement
Advanced clutch torsion mechanism reduces gear noise
Helical gear limited-slip differential reduces wheel spin and maximizes acceleration
Type-S Exclusive Features
Black chrome grille trim (satin chrome on TL)
Redesigned bumper with black chrome crossbar and horizontal mesh trim
Pronounced "splitter" lip on front valance
Type-S Exclusive Features
10-spoke alloy wheels in Dark Euro Silver
Smoked rear side marker lights
Wider, more aggressive side sill moldings
Type-S Exclusive Features
Exclusive rear bumper with trunk lid spoiler diffuser
Redesigned and unique lower valance
Large diameter quad exhaust finishers
Black chrome taillight trim
New Type-S logo
Features exclusive to the TL Type-S include:
Increased damping rates for superior handling
Rear spring rate increased
A solid front anti-roll bar and thicker rear anti-roll bar
Damper mount stiffness increased 400 percent for enhanced response and feel
Exclusive master cylinder for enhanced brake feel
Brembo 4-piston front brake calipers
Available 235/45R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE 030 high-performance "summer" tires optional on automatic and manual transmission models
I guess my 5k is worth more
#425 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [ggesq]
Sep 01, 2006 (12:36 pm)
I can't get pass those ugly wheels and the FWD.
However, I will wait until I actually see the car and test drive it before I start throwing stones.
#428 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [ggesq]
May 26, 2007 (6:40 am)
Blah, Blah, Blah.....At the end of the day the TL Type-S will still lose to an IS350.
Why are people trying to compare the IS350 with TL's, or G35's, etc.
Lexus and BMW consider each other as competitors. So in reality its $3-5K less expensive than a comparably equipped 335. Ok so great it doesn't handle as good but then its 10x more reliable, just as quick (saw a stock one repeatedly run mid-to-low 13's in the qtr mile), and provides more luxury. You sit in an Acura or Infiniti and see Honda and Nissan. There is no Toyota that is based off the IS.
#429 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [trackstarr]
May 26, 2007 (7:23 am)
"Blah, Blah, Blah.....At the end of the day the TL Type-S will still lose to an IS350."
First place: Acura TL Type S 1:36:67 sec
Second place: Lexus IS350 1:38:24 sec
Third place: Infiniti G35 1:38:67 sec
"Lexus and BMW consider each other as competitors."
#430 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [ggesq]
May 28, 2007 (1:34 pm)
Maybe if ggesq was a real car enthusiast I would take his comments seriously.
If they don't consider each other as competitors than why would Lexus bring out the IS? To compete it with the TL's and the G35? Please!!
And if BMW doesn't consider Lexus as a competitor than why did they turn the 330 into the 335i? To take G35 and TL customers away?
#431 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [ggesq]
May 28, 2007 (1:44 pm)
Your 1st, 2nd, 3rd place is based off of who can go around a track the quickest. And based on how close those times are, it is down to the skill of the driver.
In the realworld out on the streets, the TL "Type-S" will lose everytime.
And its sad that a company with such a great heritage of making awesome motorcycle engines and 4 cylinder VTEC engines, can not produce something over 300hp. You can yank 240hp out of an S2000, but can't go over 300hp with a 3liter V6?
Infiniti is about to produce 330hp out of basically the same VQ-series engine they have used for over a decade. And Honda/Acura can't? Why not?
#432 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [trackstarr]
May 28, 2007 (1:48 pm)
"Maybe if ggesq was a real car enthusiast I would take his comments seriously.
If they don't consider each other as competitors than why would Lexus bring out the IS? To compete it with the TL's and the G35? Please!!"
A "real car enthusiast" in this segment doesn't drive a slushbox. Period.
And, please answer, why DID Lexus bring out an IS350 with only a slushbox only transmission? It can't even compete with Infiniti and Acura for the serious enthusaist's dollars, let alone BMW. And if you think "low to mid 13's", rather than overall performance and driving dynamics is what sport is all about, then you are the perfect Lexus customer.
Perhaps you should recheck your own credentials as a "serious enthusiast" before questioning ggesq's, hey?
#433 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [trackstarr]
May 28, 2007 (1:53 pm)
Don't get me wrong. The IS 350 is one sweet little ride. It has made with superb interior materials, has a well laid out cockpit and design, gobs of hp and backed w/ legendary Toyota reliability.
That being said, the IS was marketed specifically to take on the 3er PERFORMANCE wise and it failed miserably. Driver feedback, driving dynamics, & road feel to name a few are some of the areas where the IS is subpar compared to the 3er. Heck, the FWD TL gives more feedback than an IS does and it comes w/ a manual tranny.
Obvioualy, the IS is one little pocket rocket but I don't live my life driving from one stop light to another.
I would be hard pressed to call an owner of a TL or an IS a enthusiast.
It's a little unrealistic if you think the IS does not compete w/ the TL or G.