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Acura TL vs Lexus IS 350

447 messages,  Last post on May 30, 2007 at 10:42 AM

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What is this discussion about? Acura TL, Lexus IS, Lexus IS 350, Sedan

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#412 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [maxidrive] by scottm123

Aug 21, 2006 (10:27 am)

Replying to: maxidrive (Aug 21, 2006 8:04 am)
"Remember, not all car enthusiasts want or need a stick shift car."
 
When building a "sports" sedan, the option should be made available.
 
With that mentality, we could say that not all car enthusiasts want an Automatic, and for that reason, they should not be made available.

#413 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [scottm123] by habitat1

Aug 21, 2006 (12:23 pm)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 21, 2006 10:27 am)
When building a "sports" sedan, the option should be made available.
 
With that mentality, we could say that not all car enthusiasts want an Automatic, and for that reason, they should not be made available.
 
Amen. And, in fact, that worked just fine for the Honda S2000 and previous generation M5.
 
I have no trouble with a company like Porsche offering a Tiptronic to those that can't / won't drive a stick. But for Lexus - already known for being more than a little soft in the middle - not offering a stick on the IS350 is certainly not helping that image.

#414 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [scottm123] by maxidrive

Aug 22, 2006 (4:54 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 21, 2006 10:27 am)
Reality is there's more demand for automatics than manuals. So, maybe Lexus thought it would make more business sense not to offer a manual for the IS 350 in its first model year?

#415 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [maxidrive] by scottm123

Aug 22, 2006 (5:07 am)

Replying to: maxidrive (Aug 22, 2006 4:54 am)
We'll know if that's acurate in about one month.
Rumors are that the 07 IS will offer a switch to turn off the VDIM, no more tap dance in the driver's seat.
No definite word on a Munual 350 yet.

#416 of 447 07 Manual transmission by scottm123

Aug 24, 2006 (5:22 am)

Stopped by the dealer last night for some RDX party, and to ask a question about our MDX.
 
While I was there, I asked if brochures were available for the '07 TL.
They didn't have any but they are on order, should be in within the next few weeks.
 
The Sales Manager who sold me my MDX knows what I want in the TL, if I choose to go that way.
 
He said that the Manual 6-Speed will only be available in the Type-S model.
The regular TL will only offer the Auto transmission.
 
I hope he's wrong.
The slight increase of hp, I dont find the additional $5,000 to be worth it...personally.

#417 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [scottm123] by ggesq

Aug 24, 2006 (7:26 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 24, 2006 5:22 am)
scottm123,
 
Your manager is wrong, at least according to C & D August 06 article.
 
A 28 hp increase, 23lb ft of increased torque, suspension upgrades, exterior mods, quadruple exhaust and interior refinements might be worth the 5k premium to some....

#418 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [ggesq] by louiswei

Aug 24, 2006 (7:45 am)

Replying to: ggesq (Aug 24, 2006 7:26 am)
A 28 hp increase, 23lb ft of increased torque, suspension upgrades, exterior mods, quadruple exhaust and interior refinements might be worth the 5k premium to some....
 
Wow, your 5K must be worth a lot less than my 5 grands.

#419 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [ggesq] by scottm123

Aug 24, 2006 (8:15 am)

Replying to: ggesq (Aug 24, 2006 7:26 am)
What I am saying is that it's very disappointing for a lot of folks who wish for the manual transmission but don't need the Type-S
 
Paying $5,000 for the Manual option is not going to be very acceptable to some.

#420 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [scottm123] by ggesq

Aug 24, 2006 (2:47 pm)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 24, 2006 8:15 am)
Assuming he is correct, I would tend to agree with you. Maybe Acura is following Lexus' philosophy??
 
However, IMHO, I just don't see how the 07 (base) TL with the same engine, torque, horsepower, etc.. would be any different than its predecessors, i.e. not having a manual tranny option.
 
It wouldn't cost the manufacturer anything to keep the manual tranny option on the base model.

#421 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [ggesq] by scottm123

Aug 25, 2006 (4:51 am)

Replying to: ggesq (Aug 24, 2006 2:47 pm)
I completely agree, and that ws the source of my surprise.
He also told me that they are dropping the RSX.
The TSX will take it's place as Acura's base model.

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