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Acura TL vs Lexus IS 350

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What is this discussion about? Acura TL, Lexus IS, Lexus IS 350, Sedan

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#408 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [ggesq] by scottm123

Aug 21, 2006 (6:27 am)

Replying to: ggesq (Aug 18, 2006 2:28 pm)
"I'm not proficient enough with computers in pasting links but one of the reviews was from Car & Driver when the IS 350 first debuted. Huge controversy in how the 3er beat out the IS."
 
I hope we compare price tags as well.
If you take a BMW 3 series and add the necessary options to bring it up to what the IS has to offer, your at least $10,000 over the IS's price tag.
 
The BMW offers a better handling drive, and maybe a fraction of a second, depending on model and year.... and nothing more.
 
The IS is MUCH more refined, offers more bang for the buck and let's face it... it's nicer to look at too!

#409 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [scottm123] by ggesq

Aug 21, 2006 (7:15 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 21, 2006 6:27 am)
The BMW offers a better handling drive, and maybe a fraction of a second, depending on model and year.... and nothing more.
 
What about a manual transmission?

#410 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [ggesq] by scottm123

Aug 21, 2006 (7:21 am)

Replying to: ggesq (Aug 21, 2006 7:15 am)
Agreed
Still not sure what Lexus was thinking there.

#411 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [scottm123] by maxidrive

Aug 21, 2006 (8:04 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 21, 2006 7:21 am)
Remember, not all car enthusiasts want or need a stick shift car.

#412 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [maxidrive] by scottm123

Aug 21, 2006 (10:27 am)

Replying to: maxidrive (Aug 21, 2006 8:04 am)
"Remember, not all car enthusiasts want or need a stick shift car."
 
When building a "sports" sedan, the option should be made available.
 
With that mentality, we could say that not all car enthusiasts want an Automatic, and for that reason, they should not be made available.

#413 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [scottm123] by habitat1

Aug 21, 2006 (12:23 pm)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 21, 2006 10:27 am)
When building a "sports" sedan, the option should be made available.
 
With that mentality, we could say that not all car enthusiasts want an Automatic, and for that reason, they should not be made available.
 
Amen. And, in fact, that worked just fine for the Honda S2000 and previous generation M5.
 
I have no trouble with a company like Porsche offering a Tiptronic to those that can't / won't drive a stick. But for Lexus - already known for being more than a little soft in the middle - not offering a stick on the IS350 is certainly not helping that image.

#414 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [scottm123] by maxidrive

Aug 22, 2006 (4:54 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 21, 2006 10:27 am)
Reality is there's more demand for automatics than manuals. So, maybe Lexus thought it would make more business sense not to offer a manual for the IS 350 in its first model year?

#415 of 447 Re: 07 IS 350 vs. 07 TL-S [maxidrive] by scottm123

Aug 22, 2006 (5:07 am)

Replying to: maxidrive (Aug 22, 2006 4:54 am)
We'll know if that's acurate in about one month.
Rumors are that the 07 IS will offer a switch to turn off the VDIM, no more tap dance in the driver's seat.
No definite word on a Munual 350 yet.

#416 of 447 07 Manual transmission by scottm123

Aug 24, 2006 (5:22 am)

Stopped by the dealer last night for some RDX party, and to ask a question about our MDX.
 
While I was there, I asked if brochures were available for the '07 TL.
They didn't have any but they are on order, should be in within the next few weeks.
 
The Sales Manager who sold me my MDX knows what I want in the TL, if I choose to go that way.
 
He said that the Manual 6-Speed will only be available in the Type-S model.
The regular TL will only offer the Auto transmission.
 
I hope he's wrong.
The slight increase of hp, I dont find the additional $5,000 to be worth it...personally.

#417 of 447 Re: 07 Manual transmission [scottm123] by ggesq

Aug 24, 2006 (7:26 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 24, 2006 5:22 am)
scottm123,
 
Your manager is wrong, at least according to C & D August 06 article.
 
A 28 hp increase, 23lb ft of increased torque, suspension upgrades, exterior mods, quadruple exhaust and interior refinements might be worth the 5k premium to some....

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