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You are in the Toyota Camry
What is this discussion about?
Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan
Aug 01, 2000 (7:06 pm)
the altima will keep its 4cyl engine when the new body is revealed in 2002, but it will have an optional v6 and it is supposed to be the same or close to the same size as the maxima.
Aug 01, 2000 (7:24 pm)
and that is a rumor I see no truth in. Why would Nissan make the Altima a similar size as the Maxima? Nissan already has the Sentra to compete against the econoboxes (Civic, Corolla, Protege, Golf... ), though it is a bit on the small side. It has the Maxima to compare against V6 Accord and Camry's, though the Maxima is a bit on the large side (bigger than Accord, Camry, Passat ... ). Thus the Altima to fill the gap between compact and full-size to compare against the 4cyc mid-sizes and upscale compacts. I see no reason why Nissan wants to make the Altima even bigger / equip it with a V6 engine to directly compete aginst its own car.
I mean, if we are going to compare cars based on unfounded rumors, then I'd start comparing Accord V6 - 6spMT with sports suspension, sports package that includes 17" low profile rims, and a lower price than current MSRP.
Aug 01, 2000 (7:27 pm)
I do not agree that the prelude would be a better car than the accord to compare to the GTI. The GTI is a lot roomier than the prelude. Probably pretty close to the accord coupe. Again, the handling characteristics and the transmission choices tell me that Honda accord (US version) is not a very sporty car.
In truth, I don't think that the development costs for a v6 man. combo would be that high. Honda has manual transmissions overseas that can take 200+ hp. Maybe not the torque of a V6, but Honda's competence in manual transmissions should make it a breeze.
It would be sad if a glorified slushbox (automanual) would kill the manual.
Aug 01, 2000 (7:28 pm)
That would be the coolest car:
"Accord V6 - 6spMT with sports suspension, sports package that includes 17" low profile rims, and a lower price than current MSRP."
Aug 01, 2000 (7:32 pm)
You don't think that the Maxima is sporty due to its rear suspension, and I don't think the Accord is sporty due to its transmission. Different views both are right!
Aug 01, 2000 (7:32 pm)
"It would be sad if a glorified slushbox(automanual) would kill the manual."
I agree completely. Semi-automatics are gimmicks. They are not the real thing. But that's the way Honda sees the NA market, and you cannot wrong them, if you look at the % of MT Maxima / Camry / 626 sold ..... sigh =(
"I do not agree that the prelude would be a better
car than the accord to compare to the GTI. The GTI is a lot roomier than the prelude. Probably
pretty close to the accord coupe. "
Not true. In terms of roominess, the GTI fits in between the Prelude and the Accord. The Accord is quite a lot roomier than the Golf / GTI, especially if you consider the rear legroom. The reason why GTI compares to a Prelude is both are compact coupes.
Or put it this way - which is the most appropriate VW to compare to the Prelude?? I can't name a better match than the GTI - similar price range, similar size, same class (compact), and both cars go for the same market (sporty enthusiasts willing to dish out $25k).
I mean, too bad the Corrado has been canned =(
amazon - I agree. Sportiness - each can have their own definition. Just don't send the mob's after me = )
Aug 01, 2000 (7:33 pm)
i work at a honda-nissan dealership and i can promise you that is not a rumor but a true fact.
the altima is going straight up against the camry and the accord v6's and 4cyl's. the maxima is going to go up against the avalon, 3series bmw, etc. it is in the works.
#48 of 2813 for the prelude,
Aug 01, 2000 (7:37 pm)
my guess, it will be discountued in the next two years because of the fact people are going with the accord ex-vl coupe instead. same price and you do get ALOT more as far as options.
#49 of 2813 17 -The Mob
Aug 01, 2000 (7:37 pm)
I won't. Just don't bring Ferrari into the discussion, Mkay?
#50 of 2813 rumor rumor = )
Aug 01, 2000 (7:43 pm)
"the maxima is goingto go up against the avalon, 3series bmw, etc. it is in the works."
Again, I'll believe it when I see it.
First of all, Avalon is NOT in the same class as the 3series ... Avalon is in the same class of Crown Victoria, Impela .... full size sedans with heavy emphasis on comfort and safety. Boats. Tanks. Whatever you call them. 3-series on the other hand are sports compact sedans. They are in the same class as A4, IS300, argeuably S40 (half-hearted effort from Mistsubishi/Volvo) ....
So, lets first make up you mind if you want the MAxima to go bigger and roomier, or smaller and sportier in your rumor, cos it can't be both. = )
2nd of all, the Maxima underwent a major model revision in 2000 model, and you're saying a complete re-design is already in the works to move it away from its current class just 2 yrs into its new model?! What is the reason?? It can't be the increasing sale can it? = )
I mean, there are rumors, and there are EDUCATED rumors.
But let's focus on cars that are available, or verified news of near-future cars.