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16252 messages,  Last post on Jun 19, 2013 at 4:39 PM

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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#15608 of 16252 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [dino001] by sweendogy

Feb 05, 2013 (4:33 pm)

Replying to: dino001 (Feb 05, 2013 3:19 pm)
So msrps on Germans are misleading because you dk what exactly is in the said car. Interesting. I just went to the acura website- and they have 5 different ilx models - they come as they come no real options to speak just dealer accessories - same with the TL (6) and Tsx(5). Btw if the new mb 1 series is Ellps then so is the ilx.
Now I'm not an acura fan in its current state of bland but will say if they are Ellps ( and to me that's debatable) they have pricing and packaging down.

#15609 of 16252 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [dino001] by flightnurse

Feb 06, 2013 (1:04 pm)

Replying to: dino001 (Feb 05, 2013 3:19 pm)
Dino this is the description the dealer has for the less expensive C250 which is priced at $37,055. Is this internet price???
2013 C250 Sedan with Mars Red Exterior, Black MB-Tex Interior, Sport Package, 17'' 5-Twin Spoke Wheels, Becker MAP PILOT Navigation, Aluminum Trim, and Much More!!
 
Now we all know how dealers get people into the showroom, but if the description is correct, the car has sport package, but according to MBUSA webpage the sport package comes with 18" wheel and tires not 17..

#15610 of 16252 Relevant cars by tlong

Feb 06, 2013 (1:58 pm)

Do we need to change the list? I see Acura TL, TSX - if the TSX is the entry car, why is TL on the list? I see BMW 3 but not BMW 1. I see Caddy CTS but no ATS.

#15611 of 16252 Re: Relevant cars [tlong] by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST

Feb 06, 2013 (2:07 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Feb 06, 2013 1:58 pm)
There's a limit to the number of vehicles we can list. The current list represents vehicles that people search for most often on our site (or search for on Google and end up in forums).

#15612 of 16252 b8 S4 vs G37x vs GS350 vs random by bunit23

Feb 06, 2013 (2:48 pm)

I have this going one another forum and thought I would bring this to a more universal sight too.
  
I will be purchasing a car in the near future and I am going for CPO. I really want an AWD, so the S4 is my first choice. I heard the Quattro is sick. The car will mostly be used for Road trips and Weekend driving. I have a older Nissan Maxima that is my daily driver. My main issue with the Audi is that most people state that it will be costly and frequent, in the future, and I plan on keeping the car for a long time. My 96 Maxima currently has 171k on it.
  
I live in San Antonio Tx and it can get pretty hot. Are there any reasons I should avoid the Audi besides costly repairs??? I am not a wrencher, but I am not afraid to dig in.
  
I am open to other cars too
  
Please give me suggestions!!!
  
So far the cars that caught my eyes are:
  
Infiniti G37x (looks cheap in most areas, but still a great ride)
  
Lexus GS350 (Never owned a Toyota and this one seems pretty nice)
  
Audi B8 S4 (so far has all the specs I want and I like to have cars I don't see on the road all the time)
  
***BMW 335xi is not on my radar because I see way too many BMW's out here. I don't want to join the club.***

#15613 of 16252 Re: b8 S4 vs G37x vs GS350 vs random [bunit23] by nyccarguy

Feb 06, 2013 (3:11 pm)

Replying to: bunit23 (Feb 06, 2013 2:48 pm)
AWD in Texas?

#15614 of 16252 Re: Another ELLPS enters the ring.... [flightnurse] by dino001

Feb 06, 2013 (3:20 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 06, 2013 1:04 pm)
I don't know. All I saw on the website, if you took least expensive C250 starting at $35350, but not really because there is non-optional $905 manufacturer's "transportation charge", i.e. it REALLY starts at $36,255 MSRP (that is case of deceptive advertising, but it's a different story). Then any time you wanted to add leather, it required also a premium package, which in turn moved the price to 40+ grand. Your quoted car seems C250 Sport Sedan ($36,580) with standard 5-twin spoke wheels (for that line) and $475 worth of options, which ain't much - perhaps it is some snap-on navigation they mention. I do not think it is an internet There can be small discrepancies, as car prices change over the year. Definitely no leather - MB Tex (high quality polymer) is standard seat surface. No, this car does not have $2500 "sports package", it is C250 Sports Sedan. There is a difference, but the dealer probably doesn't know it (or pretends not to know it).
 
Edit: Adding Sports Package to a red C250 Sports Sedan jacks the price to 41 grand (you have to add premium 1 with it, too, total bundle $4800). I doubt dealer would advertise such car for 37 grand. Considering the wheels, it is simple case of misinformation/misdirection.

#15615 of 16252 Re: b8 S4 vs G37x vs GS350 vs random [bunit23] by dino001

Feb 06, 2013 (3:17 pm)

Replying to: bunit23 (Feb 06, 2013 2:48 pm)
S4 is best choice for fun, but in spite of being CPO, I would keep some good money on the account. If you have the money go for it. If you look for some low payment type of deal, or are not prepared to spend more on the car than just buying price, go for Infiniti.

#15616 of 16252 Re: b8 S4 vs G37x vs GS350 vs random [dino001] by bunit23

Feb 06, 2013 (4:19 pm)

Replying to: dino001 (Feb 06, 2013 3:17 pm)
I can afford the car, and maintenance. I just don't want the car to be rumplestiltskin and force me to offer up my 1st born.
 
I read alot of the stories out ther and know the car will be expensive. I do want to keep it until 100k if possible.
 
I know AWD isn't necessary in Texas, but I think it will be fun.

#15617 of 16252 Re: b8 S4 vs G37x vs GS350 vs random [bunit23] by dino001

Feb 06, 2013 (4:45 pm)

Replying to: bunit23 (Feb 06, 2013 4:19 pm)
As long as you are prepared, S4 is the one I's choose.

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