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Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans
Last post on May 09, 2013 at 9:32 AM
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BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Jan 21, 2013 (7:11 am)
kyfdx....I've got a cherry '11 335 ix Coupe with the Performance Pack. It has your name written all over it, if you can wait 18 months-2 years.
Fact is, looking at the reports from the various car shows, there's not one thing I'd want (well maybe the '14 'vette, or the BMW 4 series) instead of the vehicles already in my garage.
Even the newer models coming out leave me cold. Infiniti needs a big shot of refinement. Cadillac needs to dump their CUE system. I'll hold judgement on Acura until they unveil the new TLX).
Jan 21, 2013 (8:02 am)
Funny but a loaded ford focus could have a boatload more tech then a 180 hp BMW- and also be cheaper and very close in performance -
A VW GTi makes less HP then the Focus, yet is faster...
The Fouse ST is an interesting car, however, it is slow for making 252hp. The same thing can be said about the Mazdaspeed 3.
Jan 21, 2013 (8:12 am)
I simply restated what they stated on their website: asking more out of a smaller engine will besult in more engine wear. So my take is that somebody that is very performance minded, goes to the track on occasion or regularly and doesn't care about shaving some life off the second 100,000 miles on the engine, the Dinan option is a viable one. But for those that are counting on the car being a daily driver for 8-10 years and do not want to take the risk of Dian's admittedly increased engine wear, might think twice.
I was one point shy of earning my DINAN badge with my 330, not one problem did I have with the car, I wasn't the easiest on it, whether on the track or street, granted I didn't have 100K miles on it but it was 7 years old. The engines today that are build as turbos wont self-destruct like engines 20 years ago.
There is always a risk when added more boost to an engine than what the manufacture had planned. This is why people need to reframe from increasing the boost too high, there is a fine line between power and reliability.
#15565 of 16087 Re: Need help deciding on a used '08-'09 entry level lux sedan [cdnpinhead]
Jan 21, 2013 (12:25 pm)
I would have to pick the acura over the other cars. I currently drive an 11 Genesis sedan but, also own a 2000 Acura 3.2 tl. I bought the Acura new in 2000 and currently have 235k on the odometer. This vehicle has been strictly maintained by the Acura dealer and still runs as well as the day I bought it. I have had no major issues with the car. I have all the necessary services performed and the oil changed every 5k miles. Only downside to the Acura is that it run on premium fuel. Other than that, it is a very good car. This car is still quick and will outrun and outperform a lot of cars. Resale value is also very good on Acura's.
#15566 of 16087 Re: Need help deciding on a used '08-'09 entry level lux sedan [albion729]
Jan 21, 2013 (1:25 pm)
Your responding to a post from aug 2011, wonder if that cat has decided yet?
#15567 of 16087 Re: Need help deciding on a used '08-'09 entry level lux sedan [albion729]
Jan 21, 2013 (2:45 pm)
I have a 2000 3.2TL also, but with "only" 167K on it. and like you, always dealer maintained, and nothing major (knock wood), just stuff like an alternator. Still runs very well.
oh, and it has always been run just fine on mid-grade. Did not like regular, but no difference between mid and premium that we could ever tell.
#15568 of 16087 Re: Need help deciding on a used '08-'09 entry level lux sedan [sweendogy]
Jan 21, 2013 (6:27 pm)
. . . wonder if that cat has decided yet?
Well, here's the thing: in the post I stated that I'd bought an Acura TSX and was pretty pleased with it. Still am. Wow; "cat?" Were you alive and well in the '50s? I was, but I'm an old fart; didn't think you were.
Today we drove our Pathfinder down from Forest Lakes, and it performed flawlessly, as always. It's a truck, and its truck engine is not to be slighted. We've got nearly 130K miles on it, and it's running strong. However, putting this engine in a "sport sedan" is questionable, IMNHO.
My TSX is going to hit 70K very shortly -- has needed almost nothing and runs very well.
Sometimes those old posts were made by people who still monitor Edmunds regularly -- not often, but it does happen.
#15569 of 16087 Re: Need help deciding on a used '08-'09 entry level lux sedan [cdnpinhead]
Jan 21, 2013 (6:30 pm)
Was not a seed yet in the 50s- and good to hear the old TsX is holding up well- Honda does make good cars, most people who I'm related to all have Hondas and they seem to be very happy with them- my wife's crv has been very good as well.
If that "cats" still waiting a year and a half to decide what car to get- his TL has just rolled 300k miles.
Jan 24, 2013 (7:43 pm)
Opps, I was wrong,