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#15676 of 16251 Re: BMW- owners [sweendogy] by busiris

Feb 16, 2013 (8:54 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 16, 2013 4:43 pm)
BMW alert another recall- recall they had a massive recall last year as well.
If you are among the unlucky 569,000, BMW will notify you next month and tells AP that it will “replace the battery cable connector and secure it for free.” Very nice.
  
owners of “3-Series sedans, wagons, convertibles and coupes from the 2007 through 2011 model years, 1-Series coupes and convertibles from 2008 through 2012, or the Z4 sports car from 2009 through 2011,” then BMW is recalling your vehicle.
 
Well, I'm one of the "unlucky ones", using your terminology...
 
Of the 3 BMW products I currently own, all since new, it's the first recall I've personally had from BMW.
 
IMO, some folks make way too much "static" about car recalls. Unless a recall is for something serious (brakes may fail without prior warning, car fuel tank may explode without warning, etc.), I just don't see a recall as a big deal.
 
My daughters both drive Nissan products, and both experienced recalls. One was for a potential leaking brake master cylinder inspection, and the other for an incorrectly installed side air bag. In both cases, no defects were found on either car.
 
Frankly, as complex as many cars are today, I'm surprised there aren't more recalls.

#15677 of 16251 Re: BMW- owners [busiris] by sweendogy

Feb 17, 2013 (7:15 am)

Replying to: busiris (Feb 16, 2013 8:54 pm)
Well, I'm one of the "unlucky ones", using your terminology...
 
Sorry should have added that was a paste job from yahoo news, so not my terminology. I did add the CPO comments on the end.
 
Agree recall talk sometimes over done- but with giant recalls come longer lines for those of us that need to go to the dealer for an oil change.

#15678 of 16251 Re: RLX [flightnurse] by mlevine

Feb 17, 2013 (8:33 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 16, 2013 4:27 pm)
The E sedan comes with sports mode as standard. Front and rear tires diferent sizes which is a pain when replacing them. I agree the AMG package is the true sports package. With me it came down to M37 vs E350 with the tranmission issues swaying me to the MB. I have never been able to get a good deal on any BMW vehicles from the local dealers. I have had the infinitiQ45 loved this vehicle and prior generation QX56 also a great vehicle.

#15679 of 16251 Re: Acura TL [sweendogy] by flightnurse

Feb 17, 2013 (4:46 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 16, 2013 4:38 pm)
Sweeny the Honda and Acura have different buyers, this is why someone wouldn't cross shop the Accord and TSX.

#15680 of 16251 Re: RLX [mlevine] by flightnurse

Feb 17, 2013 (4:50 pm)

Replying to: mlevine (Feb 17, 2013 8:33 am)
The E sedan comes with sports mode as standard. Front and rear tires diferent sizes which is a pain when replacing them
 
That makes it a sport sedan... This is why the E class has always done poorly when it's been compared with the mid size sedan of it's price range.

#15681 of 16251 Re: Acura TL [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Feb 18, 2013 (9:21 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 17, 2013 4:46 pm)
I would like to know why they have different buyers?
 
When I bought (leased) my first new car in 2000, I looked at the v6 accord coupe vs the integra gs-r - the rates at the time very close- integra being stick and was a little sportier won out.
 
If I was looking at the ilx or tsx I would look at the accord as well.

#15682 of 16251 Re: Acura TL [sweendogy] by m6user

Feb 18, 2013 (10:07 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 18, 2013 9:21 am)
Because his two neighbors didn't think to do it so he extrapulates that out to the entire U.S. population and considers it fact as usual.
 
I always look at similar models from the luxury brand versus mainstream brand. Sometimes, depending on inventory or market trends you can actually buy the luxury brand for almost the same price. Case in point was when my wife wanted a SUV and she had decided on a Pathfinder. I knew the QX4 was virtually the same thing but much nicer outfitted and was going away. We made a killer deal on the QX4 that was actually less than we could have bought the Pathfinder for.
 
I'm sure there are plenty of people that look at loaded Camrys versus ES, or Accord vs. TSX or even TL, or Fusion vs MKZ. Sometimes you can move up to the luxury division for very little money and have a better warranty, dealer experience, etc. Obviously, this won't always work but it's worth the effort to look. Ergo.....cross shopping.

#15683 of 16251 Re: Acura TL [m6user] by sweendogy

Feb 18, 2013 (2:37 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Feb 18, 2013 10:07 am)
Haha guess I was looking more then a neighbor and his one tsx experience.
If I was looking at Lincoln or even the new Jx Infiniti I def would look at the ford and the pathfinder, why not ?

#15684 of 16251 Re: Acura TL [sweendogy] by flightnurse

Feb 18, 2013 (4:04 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Feb 18, 2013 9:21 am)
Sweeny, really you have no idea why they have different buyers. Basically the difference between Honda and Acura is that Acura is the upscale division or builder of luxury cars and Honda is builder of economy cars. Having the middle class buyer isn't looking at the Accord and TXS. Now if you can show me I am wrong, direct me to the data.

#15685 of 16251 Re: Acura TL [m6user] by flightnurse

Feb 18, 2013 (4:13 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Feb 18, 2013 10:07 am)
Because his two neighbors didn't think to do it so he extrapulates that out to the entire U.S. population and considers it fact as usual.
 
Well lets get the facts correct, they weren't neighbors, they were friends. They are the typical US buyer, they are not car enthuses. They do not understand the differences between a pathfinder and the now defunct QX4. What I think is interesting is, how you and sweeny try and use YOUR car buying experience and say that is the norm for car buyers.
 
Why do car magazines, only test Accords, Camry's, Altima, Malibus, Focus's and not add TSX, MKZ, ES350?

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