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#15256 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [buya] by andys120

Nov 09, 2012 (4:48 am)

Replying to: buya (Nov 08, 2012 4:55 pm)
Why would non-enthusiast pick a BMW lease over a Camry purchase?
 
 
I am an enthusiast and when my non-enthusiast friends (who tend to drive pickups and Subarus) ride me about getting a "Beemer" I tell them it cost about the same as a new loaded Camry ($26K).
 
If there hadn't been a good supply of nice second-hand BMWs available at a BMW specialist near me I'd probably be driving something else. Buying used is a good solution for those who would rather own than lease, they are very well made and the depreciation curve is pretty steep. My 4 y/o 528iA (44K) cost about 50% of the new price and it's such a good car that I recently bought another Reitzle-era BMW, an 11 y/o 330Ci cabriolet (78K)
which cost me about the same as a new Ford Focus ($13K).
 
I'll admit that part of it's badge snobbery but there's also build-quality and wonderful RWD driving pleasure.

#15257 of 16087 Camry vs....... by graphicguy

Nov 09, 2012 (7:07 am)

Interesting discussion. I don't know why others buy what they buy. I know I buy my cars because I like to drive them....sometimes like a banshee with their fur on fire.
 
Used to autox quite a bit. And, had an old ratty cobbled together Mustang which went to the local track (owned with a buddy) to do nothing but 1/4 runs.
 
Does that make me a driving enthusiast? I dunno? Maybe!
 
What it does do is give me an appreciation of a finely engineered car capable of doing things other cars aren't capable of doing. To some, a Camry is the kind of drive that appeals to people (lots of them, given how many they sell). To others, a BMW or Audi or Porsche evokes the driving experience they desire.
 
Frankly, I don't know why people buy what they buy. I know I do like the driving experience that BMW and Audi offers....over just about anything else.
 
That said, I also have a ratty 200K mile Accord sitting in my driveway. I appreciate it for what it is, too.....just for different reasons.
 
Some view cars as necessary evils. For the vast majority of us, a car certainly isn't a good financial investment. Some buy cars because of their MPG (i.e. Prius types). Some buy because of utilitarian reasons (why else would you buy an SUV?).
 
Only the person pulling pictures of dead presidents out of their wallets knows their motivation for buying what they buy.

#15258 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [habitat1] by kirstie_h HOST

Nov 09, 2012 (8:47 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Nov 08, 2012 4:21 pm)
We live in a way outer suburb, 3-car garage, so parking's not an issue. I have considered getting rid of my vehicle - we have two others - but one of the others no-go-in-snow. So, I'd be stranded in the house when my S.O. takes the truck to the airport (travels a lot for biz). But, the idea of just having a Vespa holds some appeal.
 
Sween - Edmunds HQ is a couple thousand miles away from me. I staff the greater Kansas City metro area office.

#15259 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [graphicguy] by m6user

Nov 09, 2012 (9:35 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 09, 2012 7:07 am)
Frankly, I don't know why people buy what they buy.
 
Finally(and thankfully) someone that does not claim to know everything about why people buy cars and how much they can afford. +1.

#15260 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [graphicguy] by billyperksii

Nov 09, 2012 (11:59 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 09, 2012 7:07 am)
Just to add fuel to the fire- off topic a bit.
My brother in-law visted us several weeks ago and had a friend who owned Camry. I was in my garage detailing my TL and he came by admiring my car.He said, how many cyclinders, I said six, he said he just bougth a 8 cyclinder Camry. I said eight, he said yes, eight.
I left it at that, i did not want to break is heart.

#15261 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [billyperksii] by sweendogy

Nov 09, 2012 (12:32 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 09, 2012 11:59 am)
Love the fact a guy with an 8cyl Camry was Admiring the TL. Now that's funny.
 
"good post"

#15262 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [sweendogy] by billyperksii

Nov 09, 2012 (2:01 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 09, 2012 12:32 pm)
Probably he would have jumped out of his pants if I was polishing up a "G"- we wouldnt want that, would we?

#15263 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [m6user] by ctl

Nov 09, 2012 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Nov 09, 2012 9:35 am)
+1.
 
I am 45, drive a 1997 Camry every day. I do like cars (why I am here reading) but my old friend has served my need/commute well.
 
My portfolio statement told me I can buy a fleet of 1000+ of them if I want, or 150+ or them a year from my paycheck. But because I am not driving a BMW, must because I cannot afford it... shrug and smile every time I read that broken record. Let's respect all people, whether or not they appear to have money.
 
> Finally(and thankfully) someone that does not claim to know everything about why people buy cars and how much they can afford. +1.

#15264 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [billyperksii] by buya

Nov 09, 2012 (9:15 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 09, 2012 11:59 am)
So he just bought an 8 (eight) cylinder Camry, eh? Well, then who wouldn't be admiring your 6-cyl TL?

#15265 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [buya] by ivan_99

Nov 09, 2012 (10:30 pm)

Replying to: buya (Nov 09, 2012 9:15 pm)
I think he was admiring the TL because he thought it had 12 cyl

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