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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G35, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Lexus IS 250, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: gas mileage G35 sedan [circlew] by blueguydotcom
Jun 13, 2008 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 13, 2008 6:41 pm)

It takes little effort to get better than the listed EPA numbers too.
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Re: gas mileage G35 sedan [shipo] by markcincinnati
Jun 14, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 13, 2008 8:57 am)

I read the post you replied to -- and I thought the number of posts pertaining to "false economy" would have somehow not been missed by this owner. I figured he must actually WANT to get poorer mileage AND poorer performance.
 
The inside of the filler door, the manual, the dealer techs, the salespeople, this board and a few other places have repeatedly explained about the compensation for lower grade fuel that these engines make -- and, of course, the way that it is handled is as you say shipo.
 
I leave for a few months and then come back for a look see and we're still talking about the same stuff. I find the search facility works just fine -- why would the car require premium fuel, tell you it requires premium fuel and then surprise you when it runs at less than its most efficient?
 
Wonder if there is a "glossary" somewhere here that would be like an FAQ page for folks -- sort of like:
 
Fuel requirements Regular, MidGrade & Premium
 
Oversteer
 
Understeer
 
Horsepower vs Torque: What we buy versus what we say we buy
 
Drive Bias: front, rear, neutral, all
 
Naturally aspirated, super charged, turbo charged, twin charged
 
And so on. . .
 
"Hey doc, it hurts when I do this. . ."
 
Doc: "Well then, don't do that. . ."
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Re: Audi still has problems [yjbeach] by markcincinnati
Jun 14, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: yjbeach (Jun 12, 2008 5:15 am)

My 2009 A4 has a build date of week 27. When it arrives several weeks later, it will be my 28th (or 27th or 29th) Audi. I have NEVER had an electrical problem -- other than a power window motor some time ago. I have never had an engine problem, never a transmission problem (other than the crappy tip-lag issue in the 5 speed auto -- and that was a software issue NOT a defect or hardware problem.)
 
I MAY have had a headlight or tail light burn out LAST CENTURY. I also had brake rotor warping issues in my 2001 A6.
 
My experience with over 2 dozen Audis is, statistically, probably not significant, but as an anecdote, it bears writing here perhaps to balance the "Audi still has problems. . ." Overall, I have no evidence that Audi still has problems. My '05 A6, soon to be gone, will be missed. In so many ways it is still ahead, by years, of the newest CTS -- if you could test drive these two cars back to back, the content and performance of the C6/A6 vs the CTS demonstrates this point. The amount of trouble with dozens of Audis has NOT been zero. It just has never been electrical as your post suggests.
 
Another corner heard from.
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Re: Audi still has problems [markcincinnati] by circlew
Jun 14, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jun 14, 2008 7:41 am)

Here is some further indication underscoring your reality.
 
link title
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: gas mileage G35 sedan [1nickatnite1] by loucopits
Jun 14, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: 1nickatnite1 (Jun 13, 2008 8:44 pm)

By "mizer" I assume that is another word for "spouse".I.E. Slow down. Back off. Easy. etc.
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markcincinnati by marsha7
Jun 14, 2008 (12:30 pm)
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You forgot to finish your little anecdote with the Doctor:
 
"Hey doc, it hurts when I do this. . ."
  
Doc: "Well then, don't do that. . .that will be $85.00...please make an appointment for next Wednesday for a followup"
 
THAT is more realistic...
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Re: markcincinnati [marsha7] by cheezhed
Jun 14, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jun 14, 2008 12:30 pm)

You forgot to finish your little anecdote with the Doctor:
  
"Hey doc, it hurts when I do this. . ."
   
Doc: "Well then, don't do that. . .that will be $85.00...please make an appointment for next Wednesday for a followup"
  
THAT is more realistic...

 
Or, you could substitute the plumber, then say, "that will be $125" (LOL)
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Or a lawyer by loucopits
Jun 14, 2008 (3:36 pm)
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Me to lawyer: "Is it true that you charge $75 just to answer a simple question?"
 
Lawyer to me: "Yes I do. That will be $75."
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Re: gas mileage G35 sedan [circlew] by laurasdada
Jun 14, 2008 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 13, 2008 6:41 pm)

Ditto-ish for my '05 TL. Premium gas, 5 slushy speeds, ~40miles/day commute mix of local/highway driving = 23mpg consistenty.
 
Tires rotated every 6k miles, but original Bridgestones gone at 33k miles, now on Toyo Versados (with Dunlop WinterSports in the, well, winter...). Regular pressure checks.
 
Yet I still want an XK. But, the Evil Wife wants a three season room. Gee, wonder who'll win. "Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets!:" Name that tune (well, show/movie...).
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Re: gas mileage G35 sedan [laurasdada] by circlew
Jun 15, 2008 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jun 14, 2008 5:56 pm)

Damn Yankees/Kinky Boots.
 
XKR...Fughedaboudit for now...
 
Regards,
OW

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