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#1 of 863 Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala by motownusa Nov 15, 2005 (5:20 pm)
This is my attempt to set up a comparo between four full size sedans. So let the discussion begin. Does anybody think the new Azera can be a competitior to the Avalon. I think they match up quite evenly in terms of performance but the Hyundai has a lower price and a better warranty. The 500 is a decent car but the engine just doesn't cut it in a 3800lb car. Replies to this message: deminin (Nov 23, 2005 2:25 pm) bwia (Nov 23, 2005 3:23 pm) deminin (Nov 26, 2005 1:33 pm) windycity7 (Jun 01, 2006 3:19 am) djm2 (Nov 04, 2006 4:46 am) snakeweasel (Nov 04, 2006 6:48 am) djm2 (Nov 04, 2006 7:56 pm) and 33 more... ncee (Feb 05, 2009 3:54 am) gamleged (Feb 05, 2009 6:28 am) thegraduate (Feb 16, 2009 10:21 am) and 5 more... cobrazera (Feb 08, 2009 2:32 pm)
#2 of 863 Chevy Impala SS by andy82471 Nov 16, 2005 (5:42 am)
I think the Impala SS is the best bargain of the four. With GM red tag sale going on you could probably get the SS at 25 grand which makes it a very sweet deal. I only thing I don't like is the FWD setup. No V8 cars should have FWD Replies to this message: juiceandjaja (Mar 13, 2006 3:45 pm)
#3 of 863 Ford 500 by andy82471 Nov 16, 2005 (6:19 am)
Just sucks. The worst full size car out there. Noisy and underpowered. Replies to this message: fin (Nov 16, 2005 6:52 am) alan_s (Nov 16, 2005 8:18 am) motownusa (Nov 16, 2005 11:26 am)
#4 of 863 Re: Ford 500 [andy82471] by fin Nov 16, 2005 (6:52 am)
Replying to: andy82471 (Nov 16, 2005 6:19 am) Underpowered to be sure... needs about 75 more horses and some torque to keep up with the competition. Cheap wire antennae for the radio is rediculous. No place for your left foot when driving either... real tight for some reason. Nice trunk size.   It is a good looking car, IMHO. But a little short in some critical areas compared to the Avalon. Replies to this message: alan_s (Nov 16, 2005 8:18 am) motownusa (Nov 16, 2005 11:26 am)
#5 of 863 Re: Ford 500 [fin] by alan_s Nov 16, 2005 (8:18 am)
Replying to: fin (Nov 16, 2005 6:52 am) I really liked the 500 in every respect until I drove it. Where is the engine, and what is that unholy racket coming from under the hood? Ford announced that the 500 wasn't selling because the public doesn't like the grill, so they are changing it! How can they miss the point? How could they do all the market research, spend billions on R&D and the manufacturing of an all-new, extremely nice car but forget about the engine? Didn't they drive the competitors? This amazes me. They could have at least installed the Lincoln, Mazda or Jaguar version of the Duratech or better still, offered a V8 as an option. This is why they are losing money. Replies to this message: motownusa (Nov 16, 2005 11:26 am)
#6 of 863 Re: Ford 500 [alan_s] by motownusa Nov 16, 2005 (11:26 am)
Replying to: alan_s (Nov 16, 2005 8:18 am) The 500 needs at least 250 Hp to be even remotely competitive. Ford really dropped the ball on this one IMO. It is frustrating that the domestics refused to learn their lessons even after one setback after another. While the Impala SS is a nice sedan with class leading power, I don't understand GM's love affair with pushrod engine and 4 speed automatic. This is 2005 not 1955 for heaven's sake.
#7 of 863 What has diappointed me about the 500 and by 1racefan Nov 16, 2005 (11:35 am)
Impala SS is that they didn't follow Chrysler's lead on the 300, and go to RWD. A RWD, 303hp Impala SS would be awesome. In addition, the Crown Vic should have been killed, and a V8 and RWD given to the Ford 500.   And not to veer off topic, but their is an article in Autoweek where a tester comments that the V6 Charger is actually a fun car to drive because of the RWD factor. He points out that the V6 would just be so so in FWD, but is actually a pretty fun car with the RWD set up. Point being, that the V6 Impala, with a different tranny might even be a decent performer were it RWD. Replies to this message: alan_s (Nov 16, 2005 12:04 pm) motownusa (Nov 17, 2005 7:26 am) alan_s (Nov 17, 2005 7:59 am) killerpiece (Nov 16, 2005 7:57 pm)
#8 of 863 Re: What has diappointed me about the 500 and [1racefan] by alan_s Nov 16, 2005 (12:04 pm)
Replying to: 1racefan (Nov 16, 2005 11:35 am) I tend to prefer FWD. More stable in the rain and certainly far, far better in the snow and ice where there is no substitute for weight directly over the driving wheels. Replies to this message: motownusa (Nov 17, 2005 7:26 am) alan_s (Nov 17, 2005 7:59 am)
#9 of 863 Re: What has diappointed me about the 500 and [1racefan] by killerpiece Nov 16, 2005 (7:57 pm)
Replying to: 1racefan (Nov 16, 2005 11:35 am) Please..... I drove a V6 charger and it was a dog (ruff ruff) no fun to drive at all!   That combined with a REALLY cheap interior, I wouldn't spend my money on one.... NO WAY!   And for Autoweek's review, they love almost everything!   As for the HEMI... Now that was fun! The interior was still bad though.   sorry to be off-topic....   killerpiece
#10 of 863 Re: What has diappointed me about the 500 and [alan_s] by motownusa Nov 17, 2005 (7:26 am)
Replying to: alan_s (Nov 16, 2005 12:04 pm) If Hyuandai can price the car right, I think it can win over a lot of potential Avalon buyers. If the Azera tops out at say 28G's fully loaded than this car would be a bargain. But some people will never consider a Hyundai because it is a Hyundai. Replies to this message: alan_s (Nov 17, 2005 7:59 am)

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