Last post on Aug 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM
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Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Ford Five Hundred, Chevrolet Impala, Ford Taurus, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#854 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [thegraduate]
Feb 17, 2009 (4:35 am)
I certainly wouldn't let fear of totaling my car, as relates to residual value, be a determining factor in my purchase. Vehicle safety systems such as crashworthiness, stabilty control, etc., are important to me, for sure, but not cost replacement.
I've been driving for nearly half a century and had a total of two minor fender benders in that time. My lack of concern for my car occupying the same space as another is why I keep my insurance deductables at $1000 in order to keep more money in my pocket.
Besides, you're going to pay more money initially for your comparable Honda or Toyota ( higher MSRP and lower discounting ) than a Hyundai. What's important is cost difference, not how much the totalled car is worth.
#855 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [cobrazera]
Feb 17, 2009 (8:34 am)
I guess I'm cynical. In my 6 years of driving, being rear-ended twice, run off the road once, and clipped at 75MPH has me thinking about things such as car wrecks.
Knock on wood, but I've never been ticketed for driving (i go pretty slow), or caused an accident.
#856 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [thegraduate]
Feb 28, 2009 (11:57 am)
Sometimes driving slow can attribute to an accident...especially if you're impeding the flow of traffic and causing cars to "bunch up" on the road. Keep an eye on your rear-view mirrors and as long as you don't see a "wagon train" behind you, drive as slow as you like.
As for resale and insurance, I know at least some insurance companies offer full-replacement value vs. simple book value. I think the difference is retail vs. wholesale. In other words, you could replace the totalled car with a comparable model year and make.
#857 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [quietpro]
Feb 28, 2009 (1:56 pm)
"Pretty slow" equates to "5-10mph over the posted limit" most of the time, closer to the limit when in residential zones. I don't, however, RACE to the next red light, and when I can, I'll coast to the current one I see.
I'm not a traffic impeder. I work as a courier part time.
#858 of 863 LEASING PROBLEMS AT HYUNDAI
Apr 10, 2009 (3:56 pm)
In my area at least (Long Island NY) HYUNDAI dealers are ONLY offering leases on GENESIS and GENESIS COUPES. And these are not very good deals, since the residual on these cars is quite poor (as of now). No way to lease an AZERA (which, I believe is in its last model year).
Also, to those who think people who lease are foolish - you should first consider the accounting rules on auto deductions for businesses.
#859 of 863 Re: LEASING PROBLEMS AT HYUNDAI [t8935x]
Apr 11, 2009 (7:15 am)
That makes no sense. Hyundai may be offering only lease incentives on the Genesis (current incentive in Long Island is $399/month), but if you walk in with cash or a pre-arranged loan the dealer would be foolish to turn you away.
The reverse is true for the Azera. Hyundai is offering only financing incentives on the Azera. You could probably find a bank or credit union from whom a lease could be arranged. Azeras have poor residuals. Dealers here are selling '08 Azera Limiteds with only 8,000 miles on them for $19,000. That's a $13,000 drop in only 1 year. You would be better off purchasing an Azera than leasing one. If it is being purchased for all business use, you should be able to write-off some of the depreciation.
#860 of 863 Azera vs Avalon
Jun 21, 2009 (1:46 pm)
When I went shopping for a new car in 2007, after doing my online research, I had decided it would be a Hyundai Azera Limited or a Toyota Avalon . At the time my sister owned a new Avalon, and I drove it before going shopping.
Since I had driven the Avalon, I went to the Hyundai dealer first. The list price on the Avalon was $5000 more than the Azera; after driving the Azera, & finding it comparable in handling, ride comfort, etc, to the Avalon, I didn't even bother going to the Toyota dealership as it would have been a waste of time.
I have not regretted the decision. I am extremely happy with my Azera Limited and will replace it with another Hyundai when the time comes. I would also like to note that I found the transaction at Baytown Hyundai in Baytown, TX, very pleasurable. The salesman and personnel were curtious, knowledgable and informed. Above all, they wanted to sell cars and we were able to negotiate a price that was around $400 over invoice. I have had the car service there since purchase, and have been very happy with the service department also.
#861 of 863 Re: Azera depreciation
Jun 21, 2009 (6:45 pm)
Dealers here are selling '08 Azera Limiteds with only 8,000 miles on them for $19,000. That's a $13,000 drop in only 1 year.
Perhaps this is quibbling, but nobody on earth is paying anywhere near the $32,000 loaded MSRP for an Azera -- any Azera. Chances are it's a drop of more like $8,000 than $13,000 from the actual purchase price, which is bad but not unique.
As for thegraduate's comments on an insurance total, if you paid $7,000 less to begin with and then get $7,000 less from the insurance company when it gets totaled, how would you have saved by paying more up front?
#862 of 863 Re: Azera depreciation [tonycd]
Jun 21, 2009 (10:03 pm)
It would be nice if insurance worked in a fair manner like you lay out in your post( by the way, couldn't agree more about the Azera "price drop" comments ) but for discussion's sake I'll leave it at our last posts on the issue.
My girlfriend just bought herself a Hyundai. 2007 Santa Fe GLS with heated leather and the 2.7L, 14,000 miles, and only paid $13,500. It was a local-bank-owned repo that blue-booked for over $16,000. She tickled with it. It's quite a nice ride!
#863 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [thegraduate]
Aug 12, 2009 (4:34 pm)
I lucked out and got an AWESOME deal on my 07 Azera. I did not purchase it until 09/2008 but it was an 07 that never sold. It only had 450 miles on it. The Azera Limited where listing at $32,000.00 and I only paid $21000.00 for mine that is fully loaded except navigation. It is a GREAT car. I love it. This is the second Hyundai that I have purchased. My first was a 2001 Sonata that I have for 7 years and put 125,000 miles on it. I did not even replacfe a head lamp on this car until it 90,000 miles. They have both been great cars and Hyundais are definiately moving up.
MY NEXT WILL BE A GENISIS COUPE!!! Very fun little car to drive.