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#834 of 863 Re: Back on topic [dfwfrank] by gamleged Nov 01, 2007 (6:40 pm)
Replying to: dfwfrank (Nov 01, 2007 3:55 pm) This 2006 Azera Limited is the largest car I've owned, and I'm also trying something different as I've owned only two cars in the past 30 years, a 1977 Accord bought new (died at 328k miles) and a 1990 Accord bought with 28k miles on it (now residing as a back-up vehicle in my back yard with 248k miles on the odo). Resale value means nothing to me, as I plan to keep a car "forever."   I put my money where my hopes are for the Hyundai marque and I'll hold Hyundai to Honda standards! So far (17k miles) so good... Replies to this message: snakeweasel (Nov 01, 2007 6:59 pm) bobber1 (Nov 01, 2007 7:34 pm) snakeweasel (Nov 02, 2007 3:41 am)
#835 of 863 Re: Back on topic [gamleged] by snakeweasel Nov 01, 2007 (6:59 pm)
Replying to: gamleged (Nov 01, 2007 6:40 pm) I put my money where my hopes are for the Hyundai marque and I'll hold Hyundai to Honda standards! So far (17k miles) so good...   Well just to let you know I have an Elantra that pushing 150K miles that has had only one issue (at around 120K miles). I would think that holds up to any standard out there. Replies to this message: bobber1 (Nov 01, 2007 7:34 pm) snakeweasel (Nov 02, 2007 3:41 am)
#836 of 863 Re: Back on topic [snakeweasel] by bobber1 Nov 01, 2007 (7:34 pm)
Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 01, 2007 6:59 pm) My wife had a Hyundai Scoupe that was shot at 70,000 miles. Replies to this message: snakeweasel (Nov 02, 2007 3:41 am)
#837 of 863 Re: Back on topic [dfwfrank] by tjc78 Nov 02, 2007 (3:40 am)
Replying to: dfwfrank (Nov 01, 2007 3:55 pm) Its funny how people's tastes can be so different. I came out of an '03 Avalon and feel the '06 is better in every way except the seats. You are right, the seats in the earlier generation were a little bigger and plusher. Other than that, I feel the '06 is better looking, more powerful, better MPG and handles a touch better. Even though the trunk is smaller, I haven't had any problems carrying the same things my '03 carried.   As for the Azera, you made a good choice there too. For the money it is the best large car "value". If you read back in the forums you will find several very happy Azera owners. Replies to this message: dfwfrank (Nov 02, 2007 7:35 pm) cicerobill (Nov 05, 2007 12:38 pm) theblackhole (Nov 22, 2007 5:49 pm)
#838 of 863 Re: Back on topic [bobber1] by snakeweasel Nov 02, 2007 (3:41 am)
Replying to: bobber1 (Nov 01, 2007 7:34 pm) Thats unusual as the Scoupe was a halfway decent car.   However my Elantra is running great at over 145K miles.   My wifes Accent at 120K miles is running great.   My daughters Elantra just over 100K miles is running great.   The only issues with all three cars is that the daughter had to get a new radiator at around 90K miles and my car needed a new exhaust manifold at about 120K miles (which Hyundai replace under warranty).
#839 of 863 Re: Back on topic [dfwfrank] by captain2 Nov 02, 2007 (11:02 am)
Replying to: dfwfrank (Nov 01, 2007 3:55 pm) been Toyota owners for 18 years, the last 6 in Avalons and later Reliability, well needed a new trany in the first Avalon within a month, took both in for rattles, squeeks, and noise behind dash. At 15000 miles maintenance told that transmission fluid needed replacement because it was burned Curious then - if you had so much trouble with your older (2004 and earlier) Avalons why on earth would you be buying another one (or even consider buying another one). In my case, it was the simple and 'clean' interior (I like the stereo being hidden behind a door, for example), the updated exterior styling (the car is far from 'pretty' though), and, most of all, the new engine that even got me into what became my 05 Avalon - wouldn't have considered it otherwise. Replies to this message: dfwfrank (Nov 02, 2007 7:20 pm)
#840 of 863 Re: Back on topic [captain2] by dfwfrank Nov 02, 2007 (7:20 pm)
Replying to: captain2 (Nov 02, 2007 11:02 am) Glad to answer your question. First I guess what is "so much trouble", your words not mine, is relative. Except for the above mentioned problems, and with the '01 Avalon needing new battery at 18 months and new tires at 16000 miles (bad tires), we had no other problems with either car. My point was that no matter what the car, one should not expect it to be problem free. Now with a Toyota one does decrease the odds of getting a problem car but it still happens. I am sure the 07 V6 Camry and certain Tundra owners would have something to say. 2nd, Why would I not look at another Avalon, we really did not have what I considered major problems with any of previous Toyotas. It's a Toyota. My wife and I just did not find the car, in this current style, appealing. If all of us had the same tastes life and cars would be pretty dull. In a couple of years we will be looking again and we will see what Toyota is offering because its fun to test drive and see what's out there.
#841 of 863 Re: Back on topic [tjc78] by dfwfrank Nov 02, 2007 (7:35 pm)
Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 02, 2007 3:40 am) It is fun to see how peoples tastes can be so different. As I responded to another member, life and cars would be dull if we all had the same tastes. Maybe a new topic, "What type of car would all of us agree to own?" What would it look like if we only had one to choose? Boy that would get some member's hearts pumping. Would it be a silver CamCord. We have enjoyed the Azera a lot so far, still some big ifs. Waiting to see just how reliable, it has some quirkyness to it, and when we test drove it and also once bought we took it out for interstate driving and it did very well but I am curious on what it will drive like on our first long trip. Obviously will keep posting since I feel it is important to let people know the good and the bad. Replies to this message: cicerobill (Nov 05, 2007 12:38 pm) theblackhole (Nov 22, 2007 5:49 pm)
#842 of 863 Re: Back on topic [dfwfrank] by cicerobill Nov 05, 2007 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: dfwfrank (Nov 02, 2007 7:35 pm) I agree, DFW, to each his own! My wife and I just got back from a medium length drive up to Vermont from Upstate New York. One way was about 300 miles. Except to stop for food once, we drove straight. Never had a sleeping butt, cramped knees or aching back. Same thing on the way back. The Azera is a very comfortable touring car, IMHO. Replies to this message: theblackhole (Nov 22, 2007 5:49 pm)
#843 of 863 Hyundai from Toyota's vantage point. hmmmmmm by theblackhole Nov 22, 2007 (5:49 pm)
Replying to: cicerobill (Nov 05, 2007 12:38 pm) From Autoblog;   http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/21/toyota-exec-calls-hyundai-strong-enemy/   You know you've arrived when your competitors not only begin acknowledging that you exist, but actually see you as a threat. Hyundai got to enjoy this distinct pleasure today when Toyota's chairman Fujio Cho told a group of Korean journalists that it was a "strong enemy". Not only has Hyundai completely transformed its image in North America from a slinger of bargain basement econo-boxes to a respected purveyor of reasonably priced, well built automobiles, but it's also going after emerging markets like China, Africa and the Middle East as hard as anyone else. Plus, Toyota has directly felt the sting of Hyundai's success, having been forced to rub elbows with the brand at the top of many recent J.D. Power and Associates reports. Still, calling Hyundai a 'strong enemy' is a bit harsh, no? How about "worthy adversary" or "respected competitor"? Toyota really drives home the point that the business of selling cars is like war and that no 'enemy' should be underestimated.   Thanks for the tip, catgirlshyla!   [Source: TradingMarkets.com]

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