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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, Volvo S60 R, Subaru Legacy, Audi S4, Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA6, Sedan


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Re: Kinda disappointed in extra and options [lilengineerboy] by ateixeira
Sep 17, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Sep 16, 2008 6:17 pm)

I haven't gone since the DC Auto Show changed dates.
 
It used to be just before NAIAS, so we'd get all of last year's leftovers.
 
Now it's the week after, so we get all the new cars. It's almost not worth it any more, only one or two concepts don't make it here to DC the following week.
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Are 2005 S4's Reliable? by nausetiggy
Sep 17, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 17, 2008 10:31 am)

I am close to purchasing one of two 2005 s4's. One has 22k miles, the other has 28k miles and both are Certified. Are there any reliability issues I should know about? Is there an average maintenance cost per year? I live in the northeast, will I need snow tires? My last Audi was an Allroad, so I am trying to get to know a different type of beast!
 
Thank you for any suggestions and information.
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Re: Are 2005 S4's Reliable? [nausetiggy] by ateixeira
Sep 18, 2008 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: nausetiggy (Sep 17, 2008 12:25 pm)

Sweet cars...
 
Do they have summer tires now? If so, you probably need snows.
 
You should be OK with all-seasons and Quattro, though.
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Re: Are 2005 S4's Reliable? [nausetiggy] by roadburner
Sep 18, 2008 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: nausetiggy (Sep 17, 2008 12:25 pm)

I have some friends who swear by Audi. Other friends swear AT the marque. I have no personal experience with Igolstadt products but I will admit that I find the S4 to be a tempting prospect. My local Audi dealer has two Dolphin Gray S4s, but unfortunately both of them are slushboxes...
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S4 by ateixeira
Sep 18, 2008 (10:23 am)
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I went with a friend from DC to Philly and back, one-day round-trip, in an S4 convertible. That thing was beautiful. The V8 is nice and torquey, too.
 
Complaints? Back seat is tiny, and the MMI navigation system interface was a nuisance. We ended up using my portable Garmin instead.
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Re: [ateixeira] by waygrabow
Sep 20, 2008 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 15, 2008 10:22 am)

We saw the Lincoln MKZ on the lot, but that bit chrome grill up front made me not want to investigate it any further. Perhaps I was wrong. Have you checked it out?
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Re: [waygrabow] by ateixeira
Sep 22, 2008 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Sep 20, 2008 7:50 pm)

Not up close.
 
I test drove the Mercury version of that car.
 
It was OK, really, just a bit bland.
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Re: [ateixeira] by waygrabow
Sep 22, 2008 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 22, 2008 11:00 am)

Yes, that is what we thought. When I sat in the front seat, the dashboard and controls seemed pretty generic. Even with AWD the Milan didn't seem to qualify as a subject of this board. If we had to make a choice right now, we would buy the new Audi A4. But we are going to wait and re-look at the situation in January. I should have looked closer at the MKZ when we were at the dealership, but the exterior appearance, formal with lots of chrome, was not inviting. Even with the larger engine and AWD, it also is doubtful to qualify as a sports sedan, but I don't know for sure..
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Re: [waygrabow] by ateixeira
Sep 23, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Sep 22, 2008 5:10 pm)

Generic, good word for it.
 
I could not really find anything wrong with it, something was just missing.
 
I did like how wide it was, very comfortable for 2 in the front, with a good arm rest between.
 
Great car ... for my aunt.
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Re: AWD MT Sedans - Subaru GT vs Others [knr5] by vlane
Oct 02, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: knr5 (Dec 04, 2004 11:23 am)

The Audi AWD is second to none as others have posted. I have loved my A4 (99) since the day I drove it off the lot and I look forward to purchasing a newer one. Having lived in Lake Tahoe for many winters I can tell you that the Audi handles inclimate weather very well. They sizing is a bit on the small side when compared to the BMW but the road performance is where the Audi shines versus all the competition. Many of my co-workers have owned Subarus and I can safely say they do not compare to Audi's.

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