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Re: AWD MT Sedans - Subaru GT vs Others [vlane] by ateixeira
Oct 09, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: vlane (Oct 02, 2008 3:58 pm)

The Audi AWD is second to none
 
How can that even be possible?
 
The A3 uses a Haldex.
 
Other Audis use a Torsen.
 
You can't generalize like that, because the two systems are completely different. At least specify which one you are referring to.
 
Plus, if Audi thought Quattro (the Torsen kind) was so perfect they would not have changed the default power split so dramatically for the new 2009 models.
 
You're buying in to the marketing hype.
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Re: AWD MT Sedans - Subaru GT vs Others [vlane] by xeye
Oct 09, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: vlane (Oct 02, 2008 3:58 pm)

The word is inclement.
 
Inclement, not inclimate.
 
You're off the island.
 
We have an '07 335xi and an '08 328xi. The former is paid off, the latter has 59 payments left 0.9%. I reviewed a Subaru Spec B, not a bad ride, but when suggesting it to my wife, who had a '95 318ti (Roadburner knows), the response was predictable.
 
I have driven mostly average cars since 1975. I don't know if I'll continue driving BMWs, but I know I've been spoiled by my 335xi. It all depends on what comes along in August 2011 when my 4 years B-t-B warranty expires. I have a very strong feeling, based on how much I look forward to every trip no matter how short, that I will find myself in a turbo-charged vehicle, and I really hope its from BMW.
 
Bring on the snow!!! BWA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!
 
xeye
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Re: AWD MT Sedans - Subaru GT vs Others [xeye] by ateixeira
Oct 11, 2008 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: xeye (Oct 09, 2008 2:25 pm)

The spec.B is a nice ride, check out the R&T comparo from when it came out. It lapped quicker than the A4, 3 series, G35, MazdaSpeed6, and everyone else, too. And it had the lowest price to boot.
 
And yes, it lapped quicker than the A4 Quattro.
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Help i cant decide!!! by quattroporte12
Oct 12, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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Alright so, heres the deal...
I had an AWESOME bmw x5, 4.4i, sport package, x-drive, loved it.
It got totaled.
SO... while i had the x5 i got a 335 rental and LOVED IT, so i was looking at used 330xi's , 06 and above, to replace the x5 just because i love the way they drive, awesome car, plus the 20/30 is a nice change from my x5s 16/22.
I also am intrigued by the 2008 r32's, and used theyre about the same for a lot less milage and more warranty.
I drove an a4, it was a 06 2.0t, and was really unimpressed (we have a q7 and it did not hold up to the standard set by the q), so im thinking maybe an 05 s4 would be a nice choice and would drive differently, but again, the gas milage...
AND, the subaru sounds like an all-around good buy, but i dont know if i can see myself actually getting one. (and possibly, i could look at fx's again, i looked at em when i got my x5, but i kinda wanted to move away from the suv thing, so if i got another one its prob be an x5)
if anyone could give my any advice or insight or opinion ill take anything i can get!! thank you guys so much!! please help i cant decide!! ive only driven the 330i, and so far ive set that as a benchmark for anything else i drive...
Thanks for the help!!!!
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Re: Help i cant decide!!! [quattroporte12] by ateixeira
Oct 14, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: quattroporte12 (Oct 12, 2008 9:04 pm)

The R32 uses a Haldex, i.e. nothing special. Plus it's kind of pricey, IMO.
 
But never mind - you loved the 335 rental, so get one of those, or maybe a 328xi.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in extra and options [dilbertic] by bmlexus
Oct 14, 2008 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: dilbertic (Sep 15, 2008 1:31 pm)

My lease is about up for my 2007 model, which is semi loaded, so I went online and then called the my Audi sales rep I used last time. The 1st thing I asked was which model is the same feature set as mine and did Audi add Keyless Entry!!!!!!
  
The Answer is only if you buy the highest price model for the keyless feature. and I asked does the highest price model come with Nav or you still have to pay 2500.00 to have that added? Nope you have to add the Nav system...
  
WOW, I like my Audi but it seems what Audi see's as new state of the art features are thing lower priced models come with when you buy a higher model. BMW and Audi options pricing is insane for many of the features that should be standard equipt for the model ranges.
  
Having to spend 43k for a car, and then having to pay another 2500.00 for a nav system and then 700.00 for so for bluetooth is like being at a hotel paying 5.00 for a Coke at a vending machine...

 
Nice things you asked your sales guy lol.
 
Sucking the rich guys, that's what they do. because they know, he'll be able to afford it.
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Narrowed it down... by quattroporte12
Oct 23, 2008 (7:08 pm)
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Now im just down to either a 2006 bmw 330i (the xi is like 4000 more when you are buying used) or a 2005 audi s4. i think the bmw drives better, and gets better gas milage, but the audi is faster, is awd, and is a LITTLE cheaper / easier to find the way i want. So i have no idea what to do. Because both are awesome cars, i love the bmw steering and suspension...and engine. and in the audi, i love the engine. So if i was buying just on drive id get the bimmer (which im leaning towards) but i feel like the audi is the better since i ski and will probably need awd. Please help me i dont know what to do! Thank you so much!!!!
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Re: Narrowed it down... [quattroporte12] by roadburner
Oct 24, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: quattroporte12 (Oct 23, 2008 7:08 pm)

Please help me i dont know what to do! Thank you so much!!!!
 
I would buy the 330i and simply order a set of winter wheels and tires from Tire Rack. I've never had any trouble getting around in snow/ice with a RWD BMW so equipped. I do the changeover myself; it takes all of 30-45 minutes. Audis are fine cars but I prefer RWD.
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Re: Narrowed it down... [quattroporte12] by qbrozen
Oct 24, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: quattroporte12 (Oct 23, 2008 7:08 pm)

Did you by any chance try the G35X and/or S60R?
 
For me, it came down to those 2 and the 330i. But, like you, I decided I wanted AWD. That made the Infiniti and Volvo much cheaper than the comparable bimmer. Audi wasn't on my list because I don't trust their reliability. Volvo won my personal driving comparisons (even against the 330i), but I wound up buying a G35X purely for practical reasons (cheaper, lower maintenance, better reported reliability, better resale value). I don't regret it one bit.
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Re: Narrowed it down... [roadburner] by quattroporte12
Nov 01, 2008 (8:43 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Oct 24, 2008 9:10 am)

Thanks roadburner, youd be happy to know that i went wit the 330. I did seriousley consider the s4, but in the end bmws steering is just so communicative and the suspension is taut yet composed, and the engine is SO smooth and linear. Great, great car. And im going to get a set of 18" blizzacks and mount them on the wheels that come with the 335 coupe with sport package, because i think they look cool on the 3 series sedan too. Thank you for your imput it really helped! By the way though, how do you do the changeover yourself do you have a lift? I dont want to have to take it up to the gas station every time i want to take the wheels off and on

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