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#220 of 269 What about the CBMS of the RL by nettravel99 Mar 02, 2006 (8:50 am)
I have mixed feeling about which car to buy. The M35X or the RL. I do not like the interior of the M35x - think the wood looks fake and cannot get the aluminium available in the sport option (why?). The mileage in the M35x I hear is not great. The RL doesn't have the camera (which can be added), but the reliability seems to be not as good although this could have been on the 2005 and fixed in 2006. The big advantage for me with the RL is the Collision Braking Mitigation System which the M35x does not have. I often am not paying enough attention and suddenly have to slam my brakes on because the car in front has stopped. Would love to hear comments about this system - it seems to be a huge plus in MHO. Replies to this message: tayl0rd (Mar 08, 2006 6:24 am)
#221 of 269 Re: RL vs Infiniti M35x [c5_4fun] by racer_x Mar 04, 2006 (11:26 pm)
Replying to: c5_4fun (Feb 03, 2006 4:43 pm) I posted this message on the "RL Problems and Solutions" forum, but it should probably have gone here, so I'm reposting it.   >>Read the 40,000 long term test of the Acura RL, Car&Driver took it off >>it's 10 best list because of all the problems they had with the car, >>8 unscheduled dealer visits to fix a host of problems, they were >>not happy with this car.   Consumer Reports has issued their "Top Picks for 2006", in which they select the best models in 10 categories. The Infiniti M35/45 took top honors over the RL in the Luxury Sedan category. The Consumer Reports review of the RL concludes "We expect reliability to be average, according to our latest subscriber survey. [New Car Reliability: Average (3/5)]"    That's pretty damning for Acura, especially since the TL is the top rated Sedan in the $30k-40k range. However, it certainly appears to reflect and expand on exactly what is shared on these boards, as well as apparently backing up exactly what was experienced by Car & Driver: a host of annoying technical issues experienced by thousands of new RL owners with the newly designed RL.    Compare that to Consumer Reports' reliability rating for the Infiniti M35/45: "First-year reliability has been outstanding. [New Car Reliability: Much better than average (5/5)]"    The RL and the M35 are both clearly excellent vehicles, but the data now conclusively shows that the new RL has some serious reliability issues, especially when compared to both Acura's own very highly rated TL, as well as their main competition, the Infiniti M35.    However, it now seems quite clear that the M35 is the superior vehicle, especially when reliability data is factored in.   I'm sure Honda/Acura is working hard to bring the car back up to their usual excellent reliability standards, but I can't help but think they simply rushed this one onto the market for some reason. Since I'm dumping my problematic leased Audi A6 2.7T, the main thing I'm looking for in my new vehicle is reliability. The latest CR reliability data has pretty much pushed me from "torn between the two" all the way over to the M35x. Plus I can't believe the RL cabin is only 1.2 cubic feet larger than the TL (99.1 vs 97.9), compared to 120.1 cubic feet with the M35 (sans premium package which alters the rear seats a bit). That boggles my mind.   - Racer X Replies to this message: ilas (Mar 14, 2006 7:21 pm)
#222 of 269 RL by billyperks1 Mar 06, 2006 (10:36 am)
I test drove the RL last Saturday and absolutely loved the car.For the money I don't think I can go wrong, but I will test drive the M35x in the near future and see how that works out.
#223 of 269 Re: What about the CBMS of the RL [nettravel99] by tayl0rd Mar 08, 2006 (6:24 am)
Replying to: nettravel99 (Mar 02, 2006 8:50 am) If I recall, I believe that system would be somewhat comparable to Infiniti's "Presafe" system, but the Infiniti system is better as it actually "positions" the passengers for a possible crash.
#224 of 269 Re: RL vs Infiniti M35x [racer_x] by ilas Mar 14, 2006 (7:21 pm)
Replying to: racer_x (Mar 04, 2006 11:26 pm) Wow, racer x, you must be on some kind of crusade against the RL, because you keep writing completely baseless and counterfactual statements. Maybe you should actually read the CD long term test at Acurazine.com (it is scanned for all to see there). CD DID NOT SAY they took the RL off of their top 10 list BECAUSE of the problems they had. Totally untrue. Further, they praised the car as well, but you forgot to ignore that one, or the fact that it was the dealer that screwed up and caused some of the trips back to have things fixed right. Read the first paragraph and stop making stuff up. Also, where do you get the "thousands of RL owners" having problems stuff? Right, like their are even thousands of posts you have read about the RL (where?). Well, I have read more posts from people praising their RLs than people trashing them. I also compared the m35x against the RL, and for me the RL blew it away in every respect.   I do agree that Honda might have rushed the RL in 2005, but I also bet that in five years, the current RL will prove a very reliable car. It is just too early to say definitively whether this will be true, in the same way that one cannot yet say that the M series will be more reliable than the RL over time.
#225 of 269 RL vs M by drpmd Mar 25, 2006 (12:03 am)
I have owned my RL for 14 months now and still love the car. Yes, I do believe that the car was probably overpriced, but as far as driving enjoyment I have not been disappointed. I think in general the car itself looks better both exterior and interior-wise than the M. The only problems I encountered involved XM traffic chip and very minor stuff. XM traffic in socal is fantastic to have. The only thing that disappointed me was the base 17" rims if you want to be picky, where soon I will replace them with 19s. Replies to this message: tonymag (Apr 22, 2006 8:37 am)
#226 of 269 Re: RL vs M [drpmd] by tonymag Apr 22, 2006 (8:37 am)
Replying to: drpmd (Mar 25, 2006 12:03 am) drpmd   Can't agree with RL being overpriced I paid $43,500 for my fully equipped 2006 RL after contacting four Acura dealers for prices. When I was shopping, I also looked at the Infiniti M35x and Audi A6 3.2. Price for both with options I wanted ran from $52,000 to $53,000. Neither Infiniti nor Audi would come anywhere close to the Acura price. Best they would offer was $2,000 off of the MSRP. Neither could deliver a car with the color and options I wanted.    Bottom line. I get a car with everything included at $7,500 below the other guys.    Now tell me again why the Acura price is too high.    I guess I'll hear that Acura's price is so low because of poor sales. That could be but I live in a large metropolitan area and I see as many RLs on the road as M35x and Audi A6.
#227 of 269 RL reliability? by acronce Apr 24, 2006 (6:51 am)
I was all set to buy an RL earlier this year when a project at work swamped me. I'm only just now recovering and trying to figure out if I still want the RL.   I'm definitely leaning towards the RL over the M. My only reservation now is the RL's reliability. Between Consumer Report's "average" reliability rating and Car & Driver's poor reliability experience (8 unscheduled service visits during their "Long-Term Test Review"), I'm spooked enough to delay my decision.   Of course the CR report and C & D's article were for the 2005 model. Maybe with the RL's second year in the US there's been some improvement?   Can some more RL owners on this list comment on their reliability experiences?   Thanks in advance, -- Allen Cronce Replies to this message: nebraskaguy (Apr 25, 2006 9:16 am) johnhayd (Apr 26, 2006 9:03 pm) vanhalenabe (Oct 05, 2006 3:12 pm)
#228 of 269 Re: RL reliability? [acronce] by nebraskaguy Apr 25, 2006 (9:16 am)
Replying to: acronce (Apr 24, 2006 6:51 am) Can some more RL owners on this list comment on their reliability experiences?   I've had my 05 RL since Oct 04. Other than a few minor things, I've had no problems with my RL. If I had to buy another car tomorrow, it would be an RL. Replies to this message: johnhayd (Apr 26, 2006 9:03 pm)
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