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Acura TL vs Infiniti G35 vs BMW 330xi

247 messages,  Last post on Aug 15, 2007 at 1:38 PM

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What is this discussion about? Acura TL, Infiniti G35, BMW 3 Series, Sedan

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#238 of 247 Re: TL vs G35 [kman007] by gooddeal2

Aug 13, 2007 (2:36 pm)

Replying to: kman007 (Aug 13, 2007 1:59 pm)
I think the intelligent key system is buggie. You will read about the issues on other sites. The computer chip that controls all the funky tech is unstable.
 
I had the G for about 8 months now and never had any problems with the key. I think the problem is minimal. People don't know how convenience it is until they have it.

#239 of 247 Re: TL vs G35 [gooddeal2] by scottm123

Aug 14, 2007 (5:11 am)

Replying to: gooddeal2 (Aug 13, 2007 2:36 pm)
I agree.
Mine is 5 months old and no problems to speak of.
 
Yes, there is a known issue with the codes in the fob getting scrambled if you allow your fob to sit directly on your cell phone and the phone receives a call... but this is being corrected and we should all have new keys by the end of Sept.
 
This is my first car with a keyless ignition and with my experience so far, I hope all of my future cars have the option as well.

#240 of 247 Re: TL vs G35 [scottm123] by laurasdada

Aug 14, 2007 (1:07 pm)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 14, 2007 5:11 am)
Keyless ignitions! Nuts! Just when I was figuring out the complexities of using a key/ignition combo!!! Let's see:
 
1. Insert key
2. Turn key
 
Thank goodness we're getting rid of this bit of mechanical Rube Goldberg-ism. I hear there's something called I-Drive that greatly enhances the driving experience too!
 
 

#241 of 247 Re: TL vs G35 [laurasdada] by scottm123

Aug 15, 2007 (5:12 am)

Replying to: laurasdada (Aug 14, 2007 1:07 pm)
It's not the complexity of the process, it's the process itself.
Go a few months without having to stick your hand into your pocket, pull out the keys, unlock the car, insert key into ignition and turn.... you'll understand.
 
It did take some getting used to though.
I'd get to my destination and then reach up to the steering column, my hand searching for keys that didn't exist.
That took some time to reprogram my brain.
 
I like not needing keys to get into the car.
Want in? Touch the handle.
Need something in the trunk? Touch the button.
 
I think it'll be nice in the winter.
Wearing gloves, carrying my laptop bag and not needing to fish for keys.

#243 of 247 keyless entry envy by taxesquire

Aug 15, 2007 (7:35 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 15, 2007 5:12 am)
Yes, even though using a key to unlock and start the car is not a huge hurdle to clear, I really do wish my '04 TL had keyless entry. If you think about it, I'm sure when key fobs that unlock doors and pop trunks first came out, some people questioned their value ("insert key, turn, open door"), too.
 
Furthermore, it's one of those items that I don't think you can do after-market (you can get an autostart kit, but I don't think you can set it to open doors and trunks keyless).
 
Navigation systems can clearly be had aftermarket, and they are so good that I don't think I could pay the extra $2,000+ car companies continue to charge for the built-in system. Now I see all the bluetooth options that can be added, too. My parents aftermarket GPS that sticks on the windshield also has bluetooth to allow for speakerphone.
 
I think "rain sensing" wipers and light-sensitive mirrors are other items that we don't need, but they're great conveniences and I don't think you can get them done aftermarket.

#244 of 247 Re: keyless entry envy [taxesquire] by scottm123

Aug 15, 2007 (8:27 am)

Replying to: taxesquire (Aug 15, 2007 7:35 am)
Navigation systems ~ I don't think I could pay the extra $2,000+ car companies continue to charge for the built-in system.
 
True, but being built in goes a long way for some people.
I personally don't want to spend 35-40K on a car and then stick some add-on device to my dashboard.
I love the built in seamless look of the stock navi.
 
Also, that 2K does buy other things as well.
Take the G for instance... along with the Navigation & Live Traffic, it also adds goodies like XM Sat Radio, The Music Box MP3 Harddrive system w/ added compact flash slot and also includes Voice Recognition for climate control, audio, information and navigation systems.
 
The 2K goes a little further than just buying the Navi itself.

#245 of 247 Re: keyless entry envy [scottm123] by taxesquire

Aug 15, 2007 (10:28 am)

Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 15, 2007 8:27 am)
Also, that 2K does buy other things as well.
Take the G for instance... along with the Navigation & Live Traffic, it also adds goodies like XM Sat Radio, The Music Box MP3 Harddrive system w/ added compact flash slot and also includes Voice Recognition for climate control, audio, information and navigation systems.
 
You are absolutely right. B/c my L came with nav, it also came with voice recognition for the climate control and the radio. I'd just weigh the pros and cons more closely than before.
 
As an aside, the aftermarket nav that my dad just bought is wireless (it retains its charge through 8 hours of use), so it has a cleaner look, even though it does sit on the dash or get stuck on the windsheild, has bluetooth technology to let you use it's speakers for your cell phone, and it has a built-in MP3 player.

#246 of 247 Re: keyless entry envy [taxesquire] by habitat1

Aug 15, 2007 (11:52 am)

Replying to: taxesquire (Aug 15, 2007 10:28 am)
What brand did your father get? How big is the screen? cost?
 
I'm thinking of resurecting my 1995 Maxima for more frequent use and a portable Nav might make sense.

#247 of 247 Re: keyless entry envy [habitat1] by taxesquire

Aug 15, 2007 (1:38 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 15, 2007 11:52 am)
it was one of the "c" series (the newest ones are the "nuvi" series) - he got it from costco
 
At this point, I don't know whether 1 co is better than another, so please don't think I'm specifically recommending a certain unit, but now that I know that they can be had with an 8-hr battery and bluetooth, I wouldn't get one without!!!

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