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Re: Best New Car Deals... [jchan2] by cluedweasel
Feb 20, 2006 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Feb 19, 2006 9:09 pm)

" remember last year Jaguar put $6000 in "Marketing Support" on the few left over 2005 X-Type 2.5 models"
 
I remember it well. My wife had me calling pretty much every Jag dealer on the west coast. None of them wanted to give up much, if any, of that marketing support money. The best (or worse if you prefer) was my local dealership who were going to give me a whole $500 off MSRP. In the end I gave up and bought a Subaru Legacy instead.
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Mazda MPV by jipster
Feb 21, 2006 (11:51 am)
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$6,000-$7,000 off MSRP on brand new 2005 Mazda MPV's...the gold medal winner of minivans.
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Commercials by jproc
Feb 22, 2006 (6:51 am)
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I was in the market for a car for my eldest daughter in college just 2 weeks ago.Thought it might make sense to lease a new car rather than buy used.
Anyway quotes I was getting for a Chevy Aveo were 305 a month for 3yr 12k a yr.Chevy cobalt 287-ford escape 290ish etc.
Ugh .Decided used was the way to go.Last night saw the Cobalt advertised on TV for about half the 287 I was quoted (I don't remember exact number).
 
Pretty amazing difference in 2 weeks.
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Re: Commercials [jproc] by asafonov
Feb 22, 2006 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: jproc (Feb 22, 2006 6:51 am)

The twofold difference (drop) in the lease monthly payment on the same vehicle is most likely explained by the requirement to put down a substantial amount of cash (or trade equity) - never or rarely a good idea on a lease.
 
All the vehicles you considered for a lease have below average (Escape) to poor (Aveo) resale values - why not look at something that does not lose 50-60% of its value in 2 years? I remember seeing a "Lease Questions" forum here...
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Re: Commercials [jproc] by jlawrence01
Feb 22, 2006 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: jproc (Feb 22, 2006 6:51 am)

Ugh .Decided used was the way to go.Last night saw the Cobalt advertised on TV for about half the 287 I was quoted (I don't remember exact number).
 
When you see huge lease payment differences for the SAME vehicle, it generally means that you are **not** comparing apples to apples.
 
Probably, the mileage that you are paying is different, there is a large downpayment difference, or maybe a different level of trim.
 
The problem with consumer leasing is that most comsumers do NOT understand what they are signing up for.
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Lease questions by tifighter
Feb 22, 2006 (11:52 am)
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I have a question as one who has never leased.
 
I have read the Edmunds info that says that leases are negotiable, just like when you buy a car. Sounds good, and I understand the idea behind not using a big down payment on a lease.
 
But you will often see these factory advertised lease offers that will be say $2k down and $350/month or so. If it is a 'factory' offer, is the lease still negotiable? That lease must be based on MSRP? I'd like to avoid the bigger down payment on a lease for the reasons Edmunds advises; can the 'purchase price' of the car be negotiated down at all to make up for the smaller down? MF and residuals fixed? This is a new game for me...
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Re: Lease questions [tifighter] by bretfraz
Feb 22, 2006 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: tifighter (Feb 22, 2006 11:52 am)

But you will often see these factory advertised lease offers that will be say $2k down and $350/month or so. If it is a 'factory' offer, is the lease still negotiable? That lease must be based on MSRP? I'd like to avoid the bigger down payment on a lease for the reasons Edmunds advises; can the 'purchase price' of the car be negotiated down at all to make up for the smaller down? MF and residuals fixed? This is a new game for me...
 
The cap cost is probably still negotiable. Like with a purchase, the law of supply and demand comes into play. If dealers are dealing on a particular model, you can deal yourself a good deal regardless of what price the ad uses to get to that payment. I've done this every time I've leased.
 
Gotta read and *understand* the fine print on leases. Most, not all, advertised leases are based on MSRP but the mouse type will tell you for sure. Once you have the MF and residual, you can calculate your payment using any purchase price and down payment.
 
For a quick mental exercise, you can determine the monthly payment sans required down payment by dividing the down payment by the lease term. For example, if the lease requires a $2000 down payment, and its for 36 months, the monthly payment increase is about $55 if you do not put down the 2 grand. It's not perfectly accurate but it does allow you to get your head around the numbers as they fly across the screen.
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Re: Lease questions [tifighter] by cluedweasel
Feb 23, 2006 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: tifighter (Feb 22, 2006 11:52 am)

Residuals and money factors are fixed (actually the dealer can mark up the MF if they want but they can't lower it past the published figure) but the actual "price" (cap cost" of the car is as negotiable as always. A few years back I leased an Infiniti M45. At the time there was $8000 dealer marketing incentive on it and I got the cap cost down from $47500 to $37500 without much trouble. Over 39 months, the residual was 48% but the residual is always based on the MSRP, not the negotiated cap cost. With the residual being $22800 (48% of $47500), the depreciation I was financing was only $14700. At that time the Infiniti money factor was next to nothing too so I ended up with an almost $50000 car for $320 a month.
Also, I recently leased a Toyota Tundra that was a factory lease offer. That lease was based on a price of invoice plus $500 with a very low MF to.
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Re: Best New Car Deals... [dino001] by harvey5
Feb 25, 2006 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: dino001 (Feb 20, 2006 5:14 am)

I'm trying to find the best dealership to buy a Honda Pilot as close to Glenwood Springs, Colorado. There aren't enough dealers to get good pricing.Does anyone have a suggestion and what pricing might be for a EXL4wd w/nav.Help...
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Re: Best New Car Deals... [harvey5] by kirstie_h HOST
Feb 26, 2006 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: harvey5 (Feb 25, 2006 3:30 pm)

Try this discussion:
Honda Pilot: Prices Paid & Buying Experience
where members are sharing their purchasing experiences.

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