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I just don't understand. They sure aren't very popular around here new or used!
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Replying to: isellhondas (Feb 11, 2006 1:42 pm) Re the PT Cruiser: my sister has one, totally loves it and wouldn't be without it. Hers is two or three years old now. She doesn't care about resale value either, will own it as long as it's standing. It's a perfect run around town, park and shop kind of car. Their other car is a Cadillac, so they've got their bases covered, whether they need the highway cruiser or the run-around town mobile. |
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Any "savings" realized by buying a Hyundi disappear at trade in time! They were forced into the long warranties in an attempt to win confidence in what had been a troublesome car. I agree, they imnproved. They had to. I would still rather have a two year old Honda or Toyota, but that's me. |
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Isell: Not being flip but let's be honest, your customer base is probably more sophisticated there in Seattle ( how else could you explain Starbucks?) and I suspect the median income is higher than here in the Sunshine State. biancar is right. The appeal of a new car with a killer warranty appeals to folks that just cant see the difference on the surface between a Honda or Toyota. If you have not taken the time to REALLY look over a new Sonata or the new Azera you should. You will be amazed !! That new Azera is for a fact getting mighty close to a Avalon in quality, fit and finish etc. at a bargain price. Please go do that and report back with a unbiased opinion. (is that even possible for a Hyundai salesman LOL !!) Hyundai is a knockin' on your back door. I think nationally they are fifth in sales and may be even fourth by now. This speaks volumes for their perceived value and reliability. I remember "back in the day" when Honda first started out in my home town they were selling that little, butt ugly car in the parking lot of the local hardware store. Hyundai has already gone thru that stage and is going to be a company that will rattle all the collective cages of the competition from now on. NO- I don't work for them. believer
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Isell: Not being flip but let's be honest, your customer base is probably more sophisticated there in Seattle ( how else could you explain Starbucks?) and I suspect the median income is higher than here in the Sunshine State. biancar is right. The appeal of a new car with a killer warranty appeals to folks that just cant see the difference on the surface between a Honda or Toyota. If you have not taken the time to REALLY look over a new Sonata or the new Azera you should. You will be amazed !! That new Azera is for a fact getting mighty close to a Avalon in quality, fit and finish etc. at a bargain price. Please go do that and report back with a unbiased opinion. (is that even possible for a Honda salesman LOL !!) Hyundai is a knockin' on your back door. I think nationally they are fifth in sales and may be even fourth by now. This speaks volumes for their perceived value and reliability. I remember "back in the day" when Honda first started out in my home town they were selling that little, butt ugly car in the parking lot of the local hardware store. Hyundai has already gone thru that stage and is going to be a company that will rattle all the collective cages of the competition from now on. NO- I don't work for them. believer |
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Replying to: beliver (Feb 12, 2006 7:29 am) Looking at that commercial, it was clear to me that they are going after the Accord/Camry market. And, I too remember, when the first Japanese cars were introduced, and I remember hearing " Who would ever buy a car made in Japan?" Detroit was smugly sleeping, and Japan was quietly and efficiently producing quality cars. I think the Koreans stumbled badly with their initial offerings and for people like me, we keep thinking "It's still a Korean car". Had they produced a quality product from the beginning, and they COULD have, they would be a whole lot more accepted than they are now. And, I know marketplaces vary. I do work and live in a pretty upscale area. Honda buyers don't worry so much about the length of the warranty because they figure they won't have to use it anyway, The 100K warranty the Korean cars have is not all inclusive either. Not such a "killer" warranty when you read it. Still long warranties really appeal to some people who have owned troublesome cars in the past. Time will tell, but I do hope Honda is paying attention.
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Replying to: isellhondas (Feb 12, 2006 8:21 am) |
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Isell: The Hyundai Azera is their latest salvo in the car wars. Read about it in a comparo with the Avalon and Passat in the March issue of Motor Trend. Their assessment: " Hyundai is eating your lunch" ( and no one even realizes it----------- yet !! Believer |
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Replying to: isellhondas (Feb 12, 2006 8:21 am) That is exactly right. Exactly right. I have seen some Hyundais in parking lots and I think they are beautiful. Sure, they seem to have just copied the lines of the Passat, but that's OK. When Hondas took off in the 80's they were copying the lines of Audis. Our beloved 1972 Datsun 510 was a scaled down version of a 144 Volvo. The Japanese have never been known for their artistic creativity, but they know how to copy a good design and build it well and that is why they have been successful. |
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Was a hell of a car. Tinny as can be but such a bulletproof drivetrain. Uncomfortable seats where you sat bolt upright! That engine was the 240Z engine minus a couple of cylinders. Just super little cars! For the Toyota Land Rovers, they copied the rugged Chevy 235 6 cylinder that Chevy used from 1950-1962. they even looked almost the same.
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