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Lincoln Navigator, SUV
#88 of 196 Re: WOW..... [akirby]
Nov 28, 2006 (9:25 am)
I just have to add my 2 cents, dont I?
In 2004 when I bought my Navigator, there was really no contest. The Nav had a much nicer interior (a big factor for me), the ride and handling are great in it etc.
Now, the dashboard of the Nav has been destroyed, IMHO, and the Escalade interior is much much better than before - and is now better than the Nav's IMHO. The 100 HP advantage is important but also the mpg is in the slade's favor these days, is it not? And although the front end of the Nav is growing on me, I prefer the styling of the Escalade now.
In addition, the rear view camera option beats the beeping radar that my Nav has and the temp control on the steering wheel, while nice, causes other radio control features to not be there.
I agree with Edmunds quote here: "the 2007 Cadillac Escalade excels. Like-priced competitors such as the Infiniti QX56 and Lincoln Navigator may edge it out in one area or another, but overall the Escalade is a superior vehicle. In our opinion, paying a lot more money for a Lexus LX 470 or Land Rover Range Rover is an exercise in diminishing returns."
With one last caveat: The Escalade has ONLY AWD. The Navigator has AWD plus true 4WD with low range. This is a HUGE plus for the Nav - IF you plan on off-road or even a lot of snow driving.
#89 of 196 Re: WOW..... [akirby]
Nov 28, 2006 (9:28 am)
I like the Escalade because it has these features not found on the Navigator. Heated windshield washer fluid, Heated steering wheel, Voice recognition, of course rear-view camera, better fuel economy, 103 more horsepower, much better fuel economy w/ DOD, intellibeams, Remote start enabling remote start and climate-control system activation, Onstar, 22's rims, to name a few.....It doesn't hurt that I get a GM employee discount that would knock off $7K minus rebates of the sticker.
#90 of 196 Re: WOW..... [heyjewel]
Nov 28, 2006 (9:32 am)
heyjewel, thank-you. The slade also has that beeping radar also If I'm worried about lots of snow I can always put some snow shoes on the slade. I will also give the off roading edge to the gator, however the slade will be more than capable to handle what most people will put it through. If you need more then buy a Z-71 package Tahoe.
#91 of 196 Re: WOW..... [rockylee]
Nov 28, 2006 (10:00 am)
We'll see how well DOD doesn't work in 2008 when the new EPA tests are out. And saying the Escalade gets better fuel mileage is simply saying it's queen of the pigs - they both suck. I don't need remote start or heated steering wheel or Onstar and I hate 22's.
I'm not knocking the Escalade as much as I'm saying there are reasons why people prefer the Navigator that are every bit as valid as the reasons why you prefer the Escalade. To each his own.
#92 of 196 Re: WOW..... [akirby]
Nov 28, 2006 (10:10 am)
I'm certainly not in the market for a heavy duty, truck-based rolling bordello, so neither the slade nor the gator do much for me (and as I said before, if I was in that market, the Denali would do nicely).
But styling preference aside, the slade styling has the attribute of being fresher. This third generation is a big improvement over the first and even the second. The gator, however, looks too much like a first generation with a new grill, tailgate and bumpers. A bit stale.
#93 of 196 I like the keypad, too....
Nov 28, 2006 (10:12 am)
I agree that the keypad on the Nav is a useful feature. That feature practically guarantees that you'll never be locked out of your vehicle again -- unless you forget the code!!!!
I think that the escalade does have a styling advantage inside and out... that opinion was not the case for me on previous generations of these trucks.
Still, the fold flat third row is a MAJOR advantage for the Navi. Having an uneven cargo area due to the seats being folded is a PAIN.
I've gotta drive an escalade to see if the HP REALLY makes a big difference.
Overall I think the caddy made a more substantial improvement jump than did the Navi.
IMO, the escalade was an ugly mess prior to this generation's debut.
Now the two trucks are pretty much even......
#94 of 196 Re: I like the keypad, too.... [gteach26]
Nov 28, 2006 (10:34 am)
I agree the Escalade would win "most improved".
#95 of 196 Slade vs. Navi
Nov 28, 2006 (5:46 pm)
The navigators folding third row IS a huge advantage, but I will give the nod to the Slade in a number of areas, including:
interior fit and finish
rear entertainment system ( I believe that the Slade loads DVD's in the dash, while the Navigator loads in the overhead console)
Do either of these trucks have bluetooth?
Unfortunately, if you want a folding 3rd row, you're stuck with the Armada/QX56 with it's awful reliability or the Durango/Aspen, which really doesn't have the goodies to compete in this league.
I started a full-sized luxury SUV thread but it died a quick death. I'm still considering the Slade vs. Navigator vs. Yukon Denali vs. LX470.
#96 of 196 Re: Slade vs. Navi [ckelly14]
Nov 28, 2006 (11:18 pm)
Unfortunately, if you want a folding 3rd row, you're stuck with the Armada/QX56 with it's awful reliability or the Durango/Aspen, which really doesn't have the goodies to compete in this league
Huh? Ford invented the concept in 02 with the Explorer, and put it into the Expedition and Navigator in 03. Nissan cleverly copied it, and so has Dodge. Good idea. I'm surprised Toyota is taking so long to improve on it, but GM will never get it. Just bringing out the GMT900 line without it, is insanity. But, more horsepower will compensate, evidently.
Ford has always been the wagonmaster, with the best wagons first. Same with trucks. GM is an also ran in innovation these days. Not saying their trucks aren't good, they are. Just the last to get technology.
I believe neither the Slade or Gator have bluetooth yet.
#97 of 196 Well so far the Jury says....
Nov 29, 2006 (3:50 am)
The Escalade is the favorite. I actually like both but the Escalade, would be the one I'd spend my money on.