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180 messages, Last post on Feb 12, 2009 at 6:04 PM
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Whatever happened to the "hurricane engine" with a gazzilion horsepower that Ford was supposedly working on? The rumor was that the Navi would be getting that new engine to compete with the Escalade..... Is that engine still in the pipeline or is it dead?
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Replying to: gteach26 (Aug 10, 2007 10:05 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Aug 10, 2007 10:44 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 10, 2007 11:04 am) Ford still has not figured out how to get a product out in three years or less, like the competition can do. Must be dizzying for them to see all the new stuff coming almost continuously from Japan and Korea. Hopefully this twin force stuff will leapfrog some of the competition.
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Aug 10, 2007 11:50 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 10, 2007 7:34 pm) I believe it's either been fixed or will be fixed soon (we've seen some evidence already) but I don't think they'll catch up for a couple more years. And if Bill Ford was still running things you could forget about it. He's a really nice guy but he doesn't know how to run a car company. |
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So for fall 2009 the Navigator "may" be in store for big change.... let's see what happens. Regardless of styling and engine.. from what I've seen, the Navigator/Expedition can't be beaten as far as passenger comfort and interior room. As far as I know , this is the only vehicle (besides a passenger van) that'll hold four large adults and 4 kids in car seats/booster seats comfortably -- great for road trips with the in-laws,grandparents, nieces and nephews, etc.... that third row is a work of art... especially for adults. Now.. have they smoothed out the Navi's ride to Lexus levels? My '03 was a "no" for me in that category.... let's see about the updated version......
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Replying to: gteach26 (Aug 11, 2007 7:30 am)  In '03 they gave the Nav (and Expe) independent rear suspension thus improving ride and handling and allowing for the great fold flat 3rd row. I love my '04 Nav. THe ride and handling are what sold me on it. I expected it to float like a boat like the '02s and back do. Now this aint good enough? Now it needs to be "smoothed out to Lexus levels"? Lets not forget that the Lexus starts at $20,000 MORE than the Nav. And then lets remember that the Japanese have appx a $5000 cost advantage vs Ford. So you just want Ford to do for $50,000 what Toyota does for $75,000 ??? Dream on. If you got the money, get the Lexus. Just gotta learn to love thos fold up to the windo 3rd seats. 
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"Now this aint good enough? Now it needs to be "smoothed out to Lexus levels"? Lets not forget that the Lexus starts at $20,000 MORE than the Nav. And then lets remember that the Japanese have appx a $5000 cost advantage vs Ford. So you just want Ford to do for $50,000 what Toyota does for $75,000 ???" Yep. Unfair expectations? Perhaps. I had an '03 with a jittery steering wheel on the highway and it felt a bit rough going 60mph+ with no "fix". Maybe I had a bad one? Who knows. I'm looking forward to trying the newer one.. I'll pass on what the test drive reveals... |
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I test drove the 2008 Navi over the weekend. I liked it. A LOT. So much so, I bought it! A few initial comments on the truck from my first few drives..... Overall, a very "solid" ride. It drives smooth as can be. The interior is whisper quiet -- much quieter than my '03. At highway speeds you can still feel the wind a bit, but I guess that's just the physics of driving a box. I've driven it over railroad tracks and you barley notice the bumps. The steering wheel feels smooth and solid, and the truck drives as if it were on glass. The truck doesn't race off the line but I'm hard pressed to notice when it shifts gears...it's one solid smooth ride from 0 to 75mph. The interior refinement of the vehicle was quite impressive. All the knobs and switches "click" nicely and the interior materials look and feel great. The Navigation system is as good as I've seen. Same high quality as the Lexus nav -- still haven't played with it much though. The color rearview camera system on the mirror is very functional and a GREAT safety addition to this truck. It's a bit smallish on the display but I'm very glad to have it. I test drove a gold '08 with camel interior with elite package and the 20 inch chrome wheels. I noticed that the hood did NOT have the extra chrome strip on the top lip -- a little less chrome on the front end is definitely a good thing for me!!! The front sun visors now extend to cover the entire window -- a neat feature that my '03 didn't have. The power rear liftgate no longer makes that "dentist drill" noise and it now closes with a classy, hushed "thunk" instead of the loud bang-n-rattle of my '03 gator. The seats are a MAJOR upgrade for me from the '03. They feel very soft when you first sit, but they seem to provide good support. At night the interior lights up beautifully with white led lights all over the place. The navigation system dims based on exterior lighting conditions. The light wood trim looks and feels as good as any wood trim I've seen on any vehicle. From what I can tell so far, the truck does not have rain sensing wipers -- that's a feature I'll miss, but I'll survive without it. The rearview mirrors are HUGE -- no blind spots with these puppies! I've yet to play with the DVD entertainment system, but the unit is very thin and looks very elegant. It is tucked out of the way so as not to obstruct the view to the rear when closed. This is a big, comfortable truck. Much like my now traded-in LS430, it is the perfect antidote for a crazy day at work. The THX sound system sounds clear and crisp. The truck comes with Sirrius satellite free for 6 months -- We'll see if it'll be worth the $7 to $12 bucks a month after that. I look forward to seeing how this navi hold ups to road trips and kiddie abuse over the next 2 years... so far though, I am very impressed with what the folks at Ford have done with this truck. Anyone wanting a big suv with loads of space should definitely put this one on their list for a test drive.
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