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2007 and newer Lincoln Navigators

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Re: Thinking of jumping back in... [gteach26] by nvbanker
Aug 03, 2007 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: gteach26 (Aug 03, 2007 7:45 am)

My REAL goal here is to buy some time until I can get into the new Lexus LX570 coming out early next year (can't figure why they can't fold that darn third row flat, but anyways...). Unfortunately, I think that truck won't be available for a reasonable price for quite a while.
 
So funny you should mention that - my pet peeve for all SUVs other than Fords has been their inability to figure out how to powerfold their third seat down, when Ford showed them how in 2002! Nissan put it in their Armada/Q56,
and now it's catching on with others like the Pilot and R -class, but when I too was looking forward to getting a 570, I was appalled to see they had still not incorporated this feature into their "totally new" SUV!! Hanging them up on the sides is ridiculous, but I guess better than dragging it out. It could be a deal breaker with me.
 
BTW, my Escalade is the EXT model (like the Avalanche), so the third seat isn't an issue since there isn't one. I preferred my 03 Navigator by a long shot in many many ways, but not the 07.
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Re: Thinking of jumping back in... [jeyhoe] by gteach26
Aug 04, 2007 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Aug 03, 2007 8:50 am)

Geez, must be nice. Buy some time and a $60,000 SUV until the $75,000 SUV you really want comes up. Gawd, what is YOUR job? Can I get one like that? :>)
 
Wife and I own and run a finance co. for heavy equipment and commercial vehicles... I wish it was a "job"... instead it's a 24/7 "lifestyle"....very good $$ returns, but there's a heck of a lot sweat-n-stress in the process
 
Still, there's a $25 Timex on my wrist and a $10 Target polo on my back.... expensive cars and trucks though -- those are what get the "kid in the toy store" out of me!
 
BTW, I think I'm holding off a few months to get the '08 navi... dealers are still trying to unload the '07's. If it weren't for that backup camera I'd jump now for an '07.
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Re: Thinking of jumping back in... [gteach26] by nvbanker
Aug 04, 2007 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: gteach26 (Aug 04, 2007 8:32 am)

Are you gonna check out the 2008 LX570, teach?
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Re: Thinking of jumping back in... [nvbanker] by gteach26
Aug 05, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 04, 2007 4:25 pm)

The new LX is on the top of my list. I am assuming this truck runs quiet and smoothly. The pics of the truck (esp. the interior) seem very nice. With 400 horses it should have very decent power.
 
BUT.....
 
I'm thinking this truck will be hard to get for the first few months (lots of people with cash to burn wanting to be early adopters) AND the price probably won't budge much off of MSRP for the first half of next year.
 
The Navigator, more-so now perhaps thanks to the new "remington look" (LOL!!!!), has always provided great bang for the buck and invoice deals are not hard to come by. A used or demo LX470 should be a decent deal now, too.
 
Right now, those are the two options I'm closely looking at as my next options for two years 'till the 570 becomes reasonable.
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gteach by nvbanker
Aug 05, 2007 (4:11 pm)
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Not a bad strategery, there teach. The 3rd seat is still unbeatable in the Navigator, for room and convenience.
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Driving impressions... by gteach26
Aug 09, 2007 (8:30 am)
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Are there any 2007+ Navi customers out there that can comment on the driving characteristics of the truck? Press stuff says that it is a very quiet, smooth shifting ride. Any real world confirmations on that?
 
Also, has anyone upgraded from athe 2003-2006 model up to the '07's? If so, do you notice any differences in the ride?
 
I'm probably test driving an '08 this weekend and I wanted to know what to expect....
 
Thanks!!!
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Re: Driving impressions... [gteach26] by montobahn
Aug 09, 2007 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: gteach26 (Aug 09, 2007 8:30 am)

I would say the 2007 Nav is the smoothest and quietest of all the big SUV's. Just finished a 3,000 trip and nothing but good things to say.
 
I almost got the Cady but got tied of always hearing the motor\exhaust noise and felt GM didn't deserve my business due to the lack of thought year after year regarding the 3rd row seating.
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Re: Driving impressions... [montobahn] by gregg_vw
Aug 10, 2007 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: montobahn (Aug 09, 2007 6:53 pm)

It all comes down to what you prefer. There are many people who don't much care about the third row seating as much as the lack of thought that Lincoln has put into its engine...the same 300 hp unit available for years and years, and the same mill that motivates the F150. It is quite adequate, but hardly competitive with Cadillac.
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Re: Driving impressions... [gregg_vw] by akirby
Aug 10, 2007 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Aug 10, 2007 4:57 am)

I still don't understand why you need 400 hp in a top heavy SUV. I think they just need new sheetmetal and a newer gauge cluster. Better mileage would be a better selling point than more power.
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Re: Driving impressions... [akirby] by gregg_vw
Aug 10, 2007 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 10, 2007 5:31 am)

Ford knows that one of the reasons they got into their present fix is that they have been derelict with engine design. With a few exceptions, their vehicles have not been tops for either fuel efficiency or power. Look at that hoary old 4.6 they keep putting in the Town Car year after year. The 3.0 liter 146 hp engine in the Ranger is probably older than I am.
 
Yes, new sheetmetal would be good too. The Nav hasn't had a major sheetmetal change since its introduction. Better mileage would also be great. Unfortunately, that is not an advantage of the current engine either. As time marches on, so should the technology. More power or more mpg from the same engine, or the same power from a smaller more fuel efficient engine would be nice.
 
Frankly, I don't understand why most people even need 300 hp, unless they are towing, but that is just the way of the world. Go back 10 years and 200 hp was considered quite adequate.

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