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#55 of 159 TC light on (in Park) = Hard Shifting Auto - HELP!!
Apr 22, 2006 (4:32 pm)
Ok, Folks. Please let me know if any of you have experienced this problem...
This problem started with less than 2,000 miles on the car. (a couple of days after I rated the car a "10.0" on the reviews).
After I drove the car for about 15 minutes, I put it in Park and left it running. Got out and pumped gas. When I got back in, the "TC-off" light was on. When I put the car into Drive, it banged into gear (felt like a broken engine mount). I played around with it for a couple minutes ... turning the car off and back on again. Eventually, I decided to drive it with the light on ... almost 10:00 pm, not much of a choice. As I was driving home, for about 15 minutes, the transmission shifted extremely rough with nearly every shift. Then, all of a sudden, the trans was back to normal shifting. Once I got home, I turned the car off then restarted it, and the light was no longer on. The next day, everything seemed normal again.
One of my dealer's service techs shops at my store. About a week later, he stopped in. I asked him if he's heard of anything like that. He said it wasn't familiar, but at this time, I had the only HHR in the area. The tech told me if it happened again, to make an appointment and have it checked ... it might store a code.
About a month or so later, on a Friday, I drove to my parent's house. I left the car running while I ran in for a few minutes. When I came back out, the mysterious "TC-off" light was on again once more. So, I immediately called the dealer and set an appointment for Monday morning.
When I took the car in, they kept running diagnostics checks and came up empty. The service manager called GM Tech Center for help. They told him the BCM wasn't properly programmed from the factory, and it needed reprogrammed. So, that's what they did.
About another month goes by, and umm ... it happens again while I'm waiting in line at the car wash... on a Friday afternoon again ... I called and had to wait until Monday to take it in.
This time, they checked everything possible ... even ran an Evap Test ... and came up with nothing!
I started asking Service Managers at different GM dealers if they've experienced this problem with any of the vehicles they've serviced. And, of course, none of them have.
A helpful Service Advisor at the Saturn dealer told me to ask my dealer if they had a VDR (vehicle data recorder). He told me they're great at finding a problem when the dealer can't duplicate it.
I asked my dealer's Service Manager if they had one. He said they did, and he could install it to see if it may finally find the problem.
First, the program for the VDR wasn't updated for 2006 models. Second, once it was updated, my car rejected it.
So, by this time, I placed a call to Chevrolet Customer Service to report the problem with the car. I was told on a follow up call that since the dealer can't duplicate the problem, that I basically just have to live with it. But, if it happens again, I should call her back.
I know the dealer I'm working with is doing everything possible to help with my problem. I'm one more attempt away from pushing for a replacement or refund under the Pennsylvania Lemon Law. I just want a new car ... MY HHR ... free of electrical / mechanical defects... just like everyone else here who purchases a new vehicle.
I'm starting to think I got a true lemon.
#56 of 159 Re: TC light on (in Park) = Hard Shifting Auto - HELP!! [redgeminipa]
Apr 23, 2006 (6:20 am)
this may not help the complete problem but these newer cars the gas cap is very fussy ,it can screw up a cars computer real bad , leaving the car running when gasing up is a no no , or starting the car before replacing gas cap ...both of these really mess things up , i'm surprised the engine light didn't come on . i'm not a certified auto tech. just my my opinion.....
#57 of 159 Re: TC light on (in Park) = Hard Shifting Auto - HELP!! [beavis]
Apr 23, 2006 (8:59 am)
Thank you for the tip, but I know that's not my problem. I was only pumping gas once when it happened. Plus, the HHR will display "check gas cap" on the driver information center instead of tripping the engine light as does earlier GM models.
Again, I truely appreciate your input ... as I'm running out of ideas. I guess I'm going to hang in there and hope for a final solution to come in the near future.
#58 of 159 Squeeky steering wheel
Apr 28, 2006 (5:21 pm)
Hi! Has anyone experienced any sudden squeeking noises coming from the steering wheel on their HHR?
Mine started doing this just out of the blue 2 days ago. It's not coming from under the hood as though it was out of power steering fluid. (my car only has 2500 miles on it)
I checked, and it is definitely an interior noise coming directly from the steering wheel.
The sound reminds me of the noise that comes from cleaning a window with Windex then wiping it off with a paper towel.
The sound has been coming and going for the past 2 days.
Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks!
#59 of 159 Re: Squeeky steering wheel [luminalady97]
Apr 29, 2006 (10:56 am)
Not exactly sure about the squeeking noise, but are you sure your HHR was out of power steering fluid? The HHR has electric power steering ... there is no place to put power steering fluid ... there is no hydraulic pump.
I would suggest taking it to the dealer and have them check the steering column.
#60 of 159 squeeky steering wheel
Apr 30, 2006 (12:49 pm)
Ooops! I didn't do a good job explaining my problem. When I said "I checked and it is definetly..." I meant that I checked the inside of the car where the steering wheel is located to find the noise. You were right to think otherwise. My sentence read as though I checked the power steering fluid.
Thank you so much for the info about the electric power steering. That certainly explains why the noise wasn't coming from underneath the hood!
I have owned brand new Chevy's for the past 20 years, and this will be the first time I have had to return a car to the dealer for a problem so soon after purchasing it. On the other hand, my Caprice, Lumina, and Malibu, were not first-year models. Hopefully its just a computer problem....
#61 of 159 Radio off: static - Radio on: loud, crackling pop!
May 06, 2006 (4:43 pm)
If anyone has experienced this problem with their HHR, and been able to get GM to fix it properly, would you please share your victory with me at onedesertfallscomcast.net.
We bought our HHR in January. We have had it in 3 times for "radio off" static followed by loud crackling & popping immediately after turning the rasdio on. GM couldn't figure it out the 1st time. The 2nd time, they "re programmed" the radio. The 3rd time, they replaced the radio. But, the problem still exists.
Please let me know if you have the answer.
#62 of 159 Re: TC light on (in Park) = Hard Shifting Auto - HELP!! [redgeminipa]
May 08, 2006 (4:40 pm)
There are topics one other HHR boards about problems like this.. Seems the fuses in the fuse box under the hood MAY be loose, try pushing down and re-seating ALL fuses in the fuse box UNDER THE HOOD