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Re: rear quarter damage [tomshhr]
by golferswife
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Mar 31, 2006 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: tomshhr (Mar 31, 2006 5:53 pm)
If you don't mind saying what state are you in?
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- #42 of 159
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Rear Quarter Damage
by long_tall_texa
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Apr 05, 2006 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: tomshhr (Mar 31, 2006 5:53 pm)
I have the same issue in the south. I had my blue 1LT for 1 month when we got a 2 day ice storm in Dallas. They sanded all the roads for the ice. I only drove on the sanded roads for 2 days. Once everything dried out and I washed my car, I found out I'd been sand-blasted. Rear fenders and rocker panels had a frosted look. I only had 1500 miles on my HHR then. My local dealer did not hesitate to say it was a problem. They immediately offered to repaint it for me. They did some investigation with GM and no official word from GM on it. My dealer installed the molded splash guards, repainted the rear fenders and rockers, and provided me a loaner from Enterprise at GM's expense. I suggested that they leave the plastic guards off of the rear fenders and cover them with the clear vinyl paint protection similar to the clear bras. I have been told by several sources that the vinyl would be more impact resistant than the paint or those plastic protectors that GM installed initially. They said they didn’t think it would be necessary after having the mud flaps installed, but said they would do it if I saw the need after trying the mud flaps. As I expected, the mud flaps did help deflect debris from the rear fenders. However, after extensive testing, (washing my car and intentionally running through puddles at a high rate of speed) I found that there was still going to be a problem with debris hitting the fenders and chipping the paint. The spray pattern only covered about 1/3 of the way up the fenders now, but was still there. So, I contacted my service manager again. He gladly added the clear vinyl to the rear fenders and rockers. Their vinyl cutting software did not have a template for the rear fenders of the HHR yet, so they did a custom job. They covered the entire fender from the point it flares out all the way to the wheel well. They covered a much larger area than the pre-cut sets you can get at www.invisiblemask.com and others. Can’t even tell it is there. Looks great. I just hope it holds up next winter when I run through sanded roads again. If not, I will be going back to them again…
I am very happy with my dealer's response. I have to say, I have had great dealer support. I hate to hear that many of you do not have the same luck. To my knowledge, they didn’t go through the district GM rep at all. They just did it and charged it to GM as a warranty issue. I hope GM will eventually step up to the plate across the board for us though.
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- #43 of 159
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Re: Design Problem [rbowen1063]
by mapperhd
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Apr 05, 2006 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: rbowen1063 (Feb 23, 2006 4:04 am)
Not to digress too far from this subject, but be glad you don't own a 2004 Volvo wagon like my buddy. We were driving down the freeway when he opened the sun roof for the first time. You should have seen the entire roof start to buckle up and down from the wind. Talk about design flaws!
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- #44 of 159
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Re: Rear Quarter Damage
by mapperhd
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Apr 05, 2006 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: long_tall_texa (Apr 05, 2006 7:01 am)
So, I want to be preemptive about this issue. What is recommended? The running boards, the vinyl protection, both? This is my first brand new car and I'd like to try and keep it looking that way as long as possible.
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- #45 of 159
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Re: Rear Quarter Damage [mapperhd]
by geemac
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Apr 05, 2006 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: mapperhd (Apr 05, 2006 3:28 pm)
From what I have gleaned from the forums you should at least have the running boards. The mudflaps alone do not appear to do the job. People with running boards claim that they have experienced little or no damage. Both the boards and flaps would insure no problem but it is a matter of taste if you want both. Personally, I kept the factory-installed vinyl stone guards when I had my running boards put on but I haven't logged enough miles to know if the running boards alone are the solution. From what I have read they should suffice. I just know that after 4300 miles the rear quarters looked like they had been sandblasted and something had to be done. I didn't add mudflaps because I don't like the looks of them. Some people remove the stone guards when they add running boards because they feel it makes a cleaner look without them.
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- #46 of 159
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traction control/low power light
by biscottti
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Apr 05, 2006 (8:26 pm)
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I now have 12,000 miles on my HHR. Love it. But now the engine light comes on, followed by "Low Power" in the instrument panel message board and then the traction control light comes on. I have taken it to my dealer twice. They ended up finding two wires rubbing under the carpet on the passenger side and fixed it. Yesterday. Today the TC and Low Power lights are back. They don't have a clue what is wrong with it. Suggestions? It usually happens after I have been driving for about 20 minutes. BTW, the traction control thing is not helpful when you are stuck on a snowy patch and need to "rock out". 
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- #47 of 159
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Re: traction control/low power light [biscottti]
by biscottti
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Apr 05, 2006 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: biscottti (Apr 05, 2006 8:26 pm)
ALSO I forgot to mention:
1.Low power means it will only go 35 mph when the light comes on.
2. the first time in (I had it towed) they diagnosed a sticky rear brake for the TC problem and and emission control leak for the low power issue.
Isn't it a bit strange that the two would coincide?
3. Why do cars never act up for the mechanics? Pixies? Demons? Is my car possessed?
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Re: Rear Quarter Damage [mapperhd]
by long_tall_texa
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Apr 06, 2006 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: mapperhd (Apr 05, 2006 3:28 pm)
The running boards alone should eliminate the problem. I take a close look at every HHR that I see. The ones with running boards are free from scars on the rear fenders. Every one without them has the sand blasted fenders. Some wose than others, but it is still there. By all means, get the running boards when you buy one. If you find one on a lot that you like and it doesn't have running boards, make the dealer order them and charge you for the ordered option price (installation included) rather than the after purchase price from the parts dept + installation.
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- #49 of 159
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Re: Rear Quarter Damage [long_tall_texa]
by beavis
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Apr 07, 2006 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: long_tall_texa (Apr 06, 2006 10:25 am)
very good advise to anyone that has not finalized the sale on a HHR , it's like fighting the U.S. goverment if you bought one without r/b's
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Re: rear quarter damage [golferswife]
by tomshhr
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Apr 07, 2006 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: golferswife (Mar 31, 2006 7:17 pm)
NW Wis and MN, Superior and Duluth area
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