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#162 of 231 Re: smoking Magnum [kowalski]
May 06, 2005 (6:23 pm)
Havn't done any consumption tests. Because smoking is out of line in itself. I'm going for the lemon law soon. I go this one at Sundance Dodge in Idaho. They won't do a thing for me. Said its not their problem. So I hav eto rely on my local dealer Thomas Sales & service who also won't help out in any special way. Only what Chrysler says, and that is not much. I can't believe Chrysler won't step up and take car of this with a new car! They are insistant at putting me thru the ringer to get to that point. Maybe I'll get a 2006 by then. As long as its an even trade! With hitch and all.
#163 of 231 Re: smoking Magnum [altaholicone]
May 06, 2005 (6:39 pm)
Yep I followed it to the key no smoke nothing not event vapor.
#164 of 231 Re: smoking Magnum [altaholicone]
May 06, 2005 (6:40 pm)
keep us informed.Typical big business and no customer service.
#165 of 231 Re: smoking Magnum [altaholicone]
May 08, 2005 (6:28 pm)
Lawyer up as cheap as possible if needed..It will really make things happen.
#166 of 231 Re: smoking Magnum [kowalski]
May 08, 2005 (6:31 pm)
Check out this address this radio station is a talk format and has free legal advise on thier site somewhere. WLS AM Chicago . It might help .
May 11, 2005 (8:45 pm)
Got the car back on 5/9. On 5/10 I started it and it smoked. Started it 30 minutes later, and it smoked. I video taped it this time. I also found that the dealer, TS & S wanted me to drive it for awhile. So I smelled the dipstick oil. Chemical smell! It appears they put in the seal sweller chemical. So I had it immeadiatly changed. Saved a sample. Pew it stinks. I also have a sample of the oil from just before they rebuilt the engine at 2000 miles. It smells like regular oil. Both oils are from their shop. Fraud???Now the good part. The dealer called me today to say they are through with my car, never want to see it again, take it away or be charged a $50/day storage fee. They refuse to work on it further. And Chrysler is not stepping up to take care of it. It has been in the shop 4 times for several issues, and 3 for others, all in 2 months time, a total of 27 week days so far in the shop.
#168 of 231 Re: The Smoking Magnum [altaholicone]
May 13, 2005 (3:15 pm)
#169 of 231 Multi displacement system...
Jun 03, 2005 (1:14 pm)
Can anyone tell me exactly how this works??? As I understand it, at some (???)constant throttle, above 60mph 4 cylinders are deactivated.
How are they deactivated? is BOTH spark AND fuel cut?
#170 of 231 Re: Multi displacement system... [blink3]
Jun 03, 2005 (6:01 pm)
Its actully easy to imagine hard to explain.
As computers have become much more reliable, the Detroit automakers are looking to use this basic concept a little bit more. In the mid 90's, Cadillac used a similar system; in the event of coolant loss, the computer would automatically shut off fuel and spark to 4 cylinders at a time, alternating at regular intervals to reduce heat buildup. But an advanced version of the 4-6-8 system was used in the design of the Cadillac Sixteen Concept a few years ago. I had also heard GM was planning on actually using the system again, but hadn't heard what they were using it on.
In a nutshell the car runs on the 1st and 2nd cyliners all the time ,then the msd system dispuses power as the throttle is pressed there no way to know when its in 4 cylinder mode other than the fact youll usually at crusiing speed.Keep in mind that 2 cylinders will be more worn than all the others,running at all times thats why a good breaking period is the most easy way to assure this engine will last.
I heard the 2 cyliders are sleeved more than the other 6 ..
The way I heard it the car counts nano seconds before the switch from 4to 8 cylinders.
You cant feel it at all ..
I did my best to explain what I feel is alien tech...LOl.
#171 of 231 Re: Multi displacement system... [blink3]
Jun 03, 2005 (6:04 pm)
More info I found..
5.7-LITER HEMI(R) V-8
The modern HEMI engine offers more power and torque than any Chrysler
Group vehicle passenger car engine since the legendary 426 HEMI of the '60s
and '70s. Today's engine produces 340 hp 5000 rpm and 390 lb.-ft. of torque
at 4000 rpm.
The new HEMI has been engineered to deliver outstanding performance, and
also provide minimal noise, vibration, and harshness, smoothness and low
emissions. Fuel economy has also been improved, but not at the expense of
performance. Chrysler Group has developed and will be the first to offer to
offer Multi-Displacement System (MDS) on a modern, large volume vehicle in
"The Chrysler Group MDS seamlessly alternates between smooth, high fuel
economy four-cylinder mode when less power is needed, and V-8 mode when more
power from the 5.7L HEMI engine is in demand," said Eric Ridenour, Executive
Vice President Product Development Chrysler Group. "This optimizes fuel
economy when V-8 power is not needed, without sacrificing vehicle performance
-- 2005 Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum RT owners will get the maximum benefit
without any compromises."
Owners of the Dodge Magnum RT will receive the powerful benefit of the
HEMI engine with the fuel economy that they would only expect from a smaller,
less powerful engine.
"The MDS was part of the engine's original design," said Bob Lee, Vice
President Powertrain Product Team Chrysler Group. "This resulted in a
cylinder-deactivation system that is elegantly simple and completely
integrated into the engine design. The benefits are fewer parts, maximum
reliability and lower cost."
Some of the significant technologies enabling the Chrysler Group MDS are
the speed of electronic controls, the sophistication of the algorithms
controlling the systems and the use of Electronic Throttle Control ETC. The
HEMI will be able to transition from eight cylinders to four in
40 milliseconds (0.040 seconds).
The HEMI engine with MDS has completed over 6.5 million customer-
equivalent miles through Chrysler Group's development and durability testing.
It is covered by the 7-Year/70,000-mile Limited Powertrain warranty.
The HEMI engine that powers the Dodge Magnum RT uses aluminum cylinder
heads with hemispherical combustion chambers for outstanding airflow leading
to high power and torque. Dual ignition (two spark plugs per cylinder)
increases peak power and torque, reduces exhaust emissions, increases fuel
economy and provides a smooth idle. The combustion system has been refined
and the engine uses direct-mount accessories for quiet operation.
The engine is equipped with ETC which enables several of the technologies
used to maximize vehicle smoothness, performance, safety and fuel economy.