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Actually... by isellhondas
Feb 23, 2006 (2:35 pm)
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All of work on commission in a sense. Work hard, get paid and maybe a raise. Goof off, get fired!
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Re: [basscadet] by rroyce10
Feb 23, 2006 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: basscadet (Feb 16, 2006 5:06 pm)

... **The buyers don't use books. They simply go through the auction history of similiar vehicles and see what they sold for at that time. The books are simply not accurate.**
 
         I'll agree with your last 2 points .... but the reason why Carmax conducts business the way they do is because of their corporate thought process -- and that doesn't make it good or bad ... it's just the way they think.
 
         Their thinking, is to keep the cost of many employee's out of the auctions, they feel they save money on transport, auction fee's, floorplan, time, etc ...
 
         That said, they also have the highest cost of recon, which is an immediate profit to the dealer because they balloon the cost and they also have the highest "pack" .. this way they are only paying 17.5/$19% commission across the board .... again, immediate profit for the "house" and the buyers still pay more money for the product ...... good for the dealer principle, not so good for the sales staff or the buyer ..
 
                                             Terry.
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Re: carmax [basscadet] by mackabee
Feb 25, 2006 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: basscadet (Feb 21, 2006 5:58 pm)

I thought Carmax paid a salary plus flat commissions on every car, plus spiffs of warranties, appraisals and accessories? From what I understand people that work there make pretty good money. Even the part timers. Not so?
 Mackabee
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Re: Actually... [isellhondas] by basscadet
Feb 25, 2006 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Feb 23, 2006 2:35 pm)

All of work on commission in a sense. Work hard, get paid and maybe a raise. Goof off, get fired!
 
I always worked hard and I would see my paychecks fluctuate according to the whims of customers. I will not allow whims to determine my income.
 
This is a problem specific to Carmax. At a regular dealership I had a lot more control over my income but at carmax...with their automated "Ups" system, the selling process was more like a lottery draw. Would you get:
 
1) Customers who want to see "what their car is worth" via Carmax's much-advertised free appraisals. They have no intention of buying or selling anything.
 
2) Customers who want to "lower their payments" because they cannot afford their 2005 GMC Yukon Denali XL and want something closer to $300 a month.
 
3) "The BMW Guy"...usually a young professional (w/ girlfriend in tow) who thinks he has more money than he really does and wants to do nothing but test drive BMW/Acuras/Lexus' all day without having the means to buy anything. Usually wearing nice clothes that he put on his maxed-out Banana Republic credit card.
 
4) Customer who has champagne tastes on a beer budget.
 
5) Customer who is extremely and unreasonably picky about options and color and does not understand that there aren't Nogaro Blue Audi S4's on every dealer lot.
 
6) people with bad credit and no money down
 
7) A customer who, if they find the right car at the right price, is willing to buy a car.
 
So when I sign in to the front desk at Carmax, I am at the mercy at whatever customer walks in the door. There is a very slim chance I will get customer #7 above. If Customer #7 happened to call or email Carmax beforehand and I sell them a car, whomever they spoke to in email or over telephone gets HALF my commission.
 
When undesirable customer 1-6 comes through the door, Carmax policy dictates I am assigned to that customer and cannot leave them until they leave the store's property. I am stuck with the losers. At a regular dealership, I can "broom them" and find a better prospect.
 
The only reason I worked at Carmax is they allowed part-time sales. At a regular dealership you don't see people who are selling 16 cars one month and 4 the next. Sure, there is some fluctuation, but not that much. At Carmax, huge fluctuations are the norm...and these fluctuations are despite the salesperson's best efforts.
 
For whatever it is worth...
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Re: carmax [mackabee] by basscadet
Feb 25, 2006 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: mackabee (Feb 25, 2006 10:28 am)

There is no salary at Carmax. If you don't sell a car all month you get paid $7.75 an hour for as many hours as you worked. If your commission exceeds that, then you're paid whatever your commission is.
 
Commission is flat.
 
Accessory spiff is a joke, honestly not worth your time to sell and the equipment is garbage to boot. They're selling Sparco stereos at Alpine prices.
 
Warranty spiff is good and worthwhile the effort. If you don't sell a warranty with a car, you won't last long at Carmax.
 
Money CAN be good, but not as good as traditional dealership.
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Re: carmax [basscadet] by jipster
Feb 25, 2006 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: basscadet (Feb 25, 2006 11:44 am)

bass, what's the turnover at Carmax as opposed to traditional dealership?
 
You stated if you don't sell a car all month you're paid $7.75 an hour. How long would a "greenpea" last selling only 1 or 2 cars a month...providing they didn't quit?
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Re: carmax [jipster] by basscadet
Feb 25, 2006 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Feb 25, 2006 2:07 pm)

I think you are definitely safe for the first 2 months. After that, if you're not selling at least 8 a month you will be "talked to", but not fired. You would probably have to have at least four 2-car months in a row before you would be asked to leave.
 
It is very, very hard to get fired at Carmax by not selling enough cars. They are very lenient and supportive.
 
Carmax's turnover seems (to me) to be lower than that of a traditional dealership.
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2 car months??? by isellhondas
Feb 27, 2006 (6:24 am)
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I think I would fall asleep!
 
An 8 car month is acceptable?? Wow!
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Re: 2 car months??? [isellhondas] by british_rover
Feb 27, 2006 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Feb 27, 2006 6:24 am)

I am working on a bout a 7 car month right now.
 
Little different product though.
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Re: Actually... [basscadet] by 1racefan
Feb 27, 2006 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: basscadet (Feb 25, 2006 11:41 am)

#3 cracks me up. This guy knows that he would be laughed off any new car lot BMW/Lexus,etc...) if he tried to go joy riding there. Nothing like trying to impress the little lady by driving used luxury rigs at a used car lot - Classy!!! I guess he knows that Carmax salesmen are obligated to cater to him doing this kind of thing.
 
This brings up an interesting point though about a negative to being a Carmax salesman....What's to keep the average shopper that is looking for an SUV, but doesn't know which model to come to a Carmax lot just to drive several different models in order to try to decide which one they like the most (with no intention of buying from Carmax)? Seems like they open themselves up to being a "testdrive fleet" for people like this, since they carry just about everything you can imagine.

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