Stories from the Sales Frontlines

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#89639 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [driver100] by abacomike

Mar 07, 2013 (5:29 am)

Replying to: driver100 (Mar 07, 2013 5:15 am)
Nice to hear a new voice and I hope you will contribute when you feel like it. Today we have 3 retired car salespeople and forgive me if I left someone out, Mike, Boomer and Isell.
 
I guess you were so intent on making sure you covered everything appropriately that you "double posted" your "post'! I think I've done that once or twice.

#89640 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [js06gv] by abacomike

Mar 07, 2013 (5:51 am)

Replying to: js06gv (Mar 06, 2013 11:02 pm)
I'll bite. I'm one of those who keeps up with this forum almost daily but very rarely posts. I'd bet there are a lot of us. My other favorite is CCBA, which is appropriate since I fit the profile (but man it's hard to keep up with most of those guys.....)
 
I second *driver's welcome, *js06gn! I was a salesman and a sales manager at two different dealerships down here in south Florida after I retired from public and private administrative education. The problem is, I've posted tons of stories over the past year about the business and my experiences. Unfortunately, I can't remember them all. Every so often I remember a customer or a situation after my memory has been jogged by one of our posters. All of us here buy lots of cars and we share those experiences as well.
 
We are always in the side here monitoring posts in case a passerby or "watcher" such as yourself has a question or two. We'd be more than happy to assist you or anyone else - all you have to do is post your question.
 
We are always ready and eager to answer questions about negotiations, car research, pricing, incentives and rebates, the inner workings behind the scenes at car dealerships, dealer fees, how to get the best deal, when to stay and bargain and when to get up and walk out of the dealership, etc.
 
I guess we haven't had many posters check in to ask those question, but since all of us here share stories about almost anything and everything, we sometimes forget that there are lots of people who view this forum but don't see much about sales stories. I, for one, apologize for that.
 
What you can do at any time is ask any question related to car buying and there are many of us who will put our two cents worth into answering your question. You can also review the many posts over the past year and you will find tons of stories about car buying and selling.
 
Always feel free to jump in to any discussion or start a discussion of your own. I for one am here to answer and/or provide expertise about almost anything pertaining to car buying or selling. I know I speak for everyone here! Welcome to the forum!

#89641 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [js06gv] by tjc78

Mar 07, 2013 (6:31 am)

Replying to: js06gv (Mar 06, 2013 11:02 pm)
I just don't see many stories or perspectives from actual salespeople anymore and have been curious about that for awhile. If that's a taboo topic that would open up a large can of worms, forget I asked!
 
Long story short, a new poster came in here with some "wild" tales of his time in the business. He was quite abrasive, and become nasty with a regular here. Things got out of hand (on both ends), and well the forum got shut down for a good while.
 
It was re-opened and more or less is now a "lounge" of sorts. If you notice we never show up on the right hand side "Most popular in forums", despite having the highest post count.
 
I don't believe we have any active salesman in the forum any longer. Isell, is retired, Boomchek moved on, British Rover doesn't seem to post anymore, Mackabee lost his battle with cancer, Madmanmoo, GreanPea, Joel are all MIA. Abacomike is a recent addition to the group and his knowledge of the industry is immense,

#89642 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [abacomike] by driver100

Mar 07, 2013 (6:31 am)

Replying to: abacomike (Mar 07, 2013 5:29 am)
"double posted" your "post'!
 
I have done it a few times lately but I caught it the other times. I have been a little lazy and haven't rebooted the laptop for awhile, and if I don't do that it does some wierd things. When I do italics it often double clicks and puts my whole message in italics.
 
I will try to be more careful...it isn't a case of thinking that what I have to say is so important that I think it should be repeated.
 
Sorry to those environmentalists who don't like me using up extra cyberspace, it was an accident.

#89643 of 91808 Re: Cheeca Lodge [driver100] by verdugo

Mar 07, 2013 (6:35 am)

Replying to: driver100 (Mar 06, 2013 5:16 pm)
No need to reply further. I agree with you about the vultures and sharing a coupon.
 
 

#89644 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [driver100] by verdugo

Mar 07, 2013 (6:37 am)

Replying to: driver100 (Mar 06, 2013 7:10 pm)
driver isn't responsible for his BIL's actions any more than I am responsible for my father's actions.
 
Not to get this started again, as I promised no more posts on this.
 
I didn't hold driver responsible for his BIL's actions. Apologies if you thought I implied that.
 
Let's carry on, and move on to the next tangent.

#89645 of 91808 Re: Cheeca Lodge [verdugo] by driver100

Mar 07, 2013 (7:11 am)

Replying to: verdugo (Mar 07, 2013 6:35 am)
No need to reply further. I agree with you about the vultures and sharing a coupon.
 
Thank you. I won't reply directly about that particular discussion, but I am glad we had it. It made me think about what is honesty and where do you draw the line. I guess there are different degrees that are acceptable at different times, and depending on the situation.
 
When I worked for a large publishing firm we had a salesman who was found cheating on his expense report (I know, you are shocked). You know how you record your phone bill once a month and hand it in with your expenses which we did twice a month. He would photocopy it and hand it in twice a month. He would fill up his wifes car, sons car, and his boat (he lived in Florida) and hand in all the receipts as his own.
 
Another trick he had...this was before computers. He would go out of town, check into a motel for 4 days, pay cash and get a receipt. After doing his work in one day, he would tell the desk clerk at the hotel he had a family emergency, could he get a refund for the nights not used, and he would come back the next time.
 
He was caught after many years on the duplicate telephone receipts. Now, that is dishonest.
 
Like I say, I try to live as honestly as I can. But people exaggerate when they tell stories. Some surveys suggest we tell about 6 lies a day. The biggest being the answer to "How are you today?"
 
Like I say, I am glad we had the conversation, it is worth thinking about what our values really are, and what is important.

#89646 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [js06gv] by richard64

Mar 07, 2013 (7:40 am)

Replying to: js06gv (Mar 06, 2013 11:02 pm)
It's not a taboo topic at all. Things just happened in people's lives. One of the "founders", Mack, died. A few faded away because of career changes or other events. Isell went away for a while but has returned, and we are happy about that. He is now the longest running salesman on this site, though now retired. Boomcheck has returned as well.
 
When I first came here, there were more salesmen than consumers. The guys were very nice and offered much help to those of us not in the know. We've had a few "flash in the pan" types who didn't stay here very long. Those who are mean spirited and arrogant (both salesmen and consumers) leave quickly because the rest of us don't tolerate those personalities. It's a nice place to visit and converse on most any topic. Posters don't buy and sell cars every day, so we enjoy filling in the blank spaces with other useful information. Still, we all get excited when a "car story" develops.
 
We're always happy to have new posters, and we certainly welcome you to our group. Feel free to post as much or as little as you like. It's nice to know that people are at least "lurking" out there and enjoying this forum. A few of us have become friends outside of this forum. We also do private emails. It's a nice place to make new friends.
 
Richard

#89647 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [driver100] by jsyodes

Mar 07, 2013 (7:46 am)

Replying to: driver100 (Mar 07, 2013 5:15 am)
Long-time lurker checking in, I think Joel was in Nashville.

#89648 of 91808 Re: How they build a car.... [jsyodes] by driver100

Mar 07, 2013 (8:23 am)

Replying to: jsyodes (Mar 07, 2013 7:46 am)
Long-time lurker checking in, I think Joel was in Nashville
 
Thanks for checking in.....it's nice to know the site is of interest to others besides the regulars.
 
Joel was excellent and gave detailed insightful answers. Now that you mention it, Nashville sounds right! You have been here awhile! He answered everything just like our retired ex's do now. Moo went off in a huff but, I think selling Porches was tough during the deep part of the recession (I am not saying it is over).
 
There was a Ford guy too, not Joel, but he didn't like some of the comments being made about the latest version of the Taurus.
 
A few have come and gone over the years. Thanks for letting us know you are here.
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