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#86316 of 91713 Re: ENOUGH WITH THE HEAT ALREADY! [graphicguy] by abacomike

Dec 13, 2012 (12:40 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 12, 2012 10:18 pm)
Mike....found it. Here you go.....
 
Thanks - that's the 2014, not the 2015. I knew about the front lights, but notice they removed the Mercedes Star hood ornament and but the star in the front grille, just like the C, M, CL, CLS, S, SC. I was hoping they would keep the ornament - it just doesn't look like a Mercedes without that Mercedes Star ornament.
 
I knew they were going to LED's next year, but the major overhaul of the E Class takes place in 2015. Next year is just a minor refresh of the front end.
 
I'm going to wait until I see the 2015 before making a decision about getting a new one at that time.
 
Thanks again!

#86317 of 91713 Re: HAVE YOU EVER LOST YOUR CAR? [tjc78] by graphicguy

Dec 13, 2012 (8:48 am)

Replying to: tjc78 (Dec 12, 2012 8:28 am)
tjc.....a bit convoluted in shifting around cars, but my son now has the Fiesta. He likes it. Good MPG. It's a little slow (so he says), and the auto trans is a little "hinky" (Ford is readying a software patch to work that out). But, overall it's a very good small car.
 
Farmer....the Accord to GF's relative did go south. Actually, I pulled the plug on it, in no small measure because of the pitfalls my good friends at Edmunds brought to the forefront regarding doing deals with relatives (or, in this case, relatives of a significant other). I've been driving it. It's a good car.....once you consider it's mileage.
 
Mike.....you're welcome.....wasn't sure if the '14 E was the redesign or not. It looks substantially changed, however.
 
ty....thanks for the mini-review. Frankly, the 500 is sounding like something I probably wouldn't be interested in, given your thoughts.
 
Supposedly, the Accord is sold (again). Haven't seen any money yet ($2,200 offer accepted, though). And, the person buying is one of those "friend of a friend of a friend" deals. But, he's supposed to bring a money order this weekend for the car. We'll see.
 
May just stick to the cars we already have. Figuring mileage, the '13 S4 has 4K miles (bought in June). The '11 335i has 19K miles. So, it's not like we're racking up the miles on either car, making a 3rd car more of a want than a need.

#86318 of 91713 Re: HAVE YOU EVER LOST YOUR CAR? [graphicguy] by abacomike

Dec 13, 2012 (9:52 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 13, 2012 8:48 am)
Mike.....you're welcome.....wasn't sure if the '14 E was the redesign or not. It looks substantially changed, however.
 
Not from what my dealer told me. The 2015 is a total redesign whereby the 2014 is a quick make-over for front lights and Star placement in the grille and rear lower panels. My guess is that the make-over front end (minus the Mercedes Benz Star Ornament on the hood) with a large star in the front grille is a sneak-peak at what the total redesign will be in 2015. The sides and roof reveal will be identical to the 2010-2013, but will change in 2015. I also believe they are adding the Stop/Go feature to the E Class Sedans and Coupes for next year.
 
Now this is according to my dealer. Mercedes usually has total redesigns to its E Class Sedans every 5 to 6 years. The 2014 will be the 5th year of the body style.
 
It is quite possible that they will stay with the 2014 refresh for 2015 and introduce a redesign in 2016. In that case, I would keep my car until the redesign. You lose too much value in your car if you own it if you purchase a car toward the end of its current body style since the redesign lowers the value of previous designs.
 
I am in no hurry to purchase a new car at this point. If your assumption is correct and my dealer is wrong, and the 2014 is a major redesign (which is improbably), I might consider it - but highly unlikely that the 2014 is a major redesign.
 
the closer we get to April or May, the better look we will get at the 2014 and then decide.
 
Thanks again for the link!

#86319 of 91713 Re: HAVE YOU EVER LOST YOUR CAR? [robr2] by verdugo

Dec 13, 2012 (2:57 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 08, 2012 3:19 pm)
You are saying the 2013 is a refresh to which I agree but it's a refresh of the ALL NEW 2012 Civic. Refreshes are typically 2-3 years down the line for Honda - not 1.
 
Agree 100%. Also agree with the use of the word "refresh".
 Seems it can mean different things depending on how it is used.
 
Welcome to Arguing logic 101 by driver. My advice is to just move on. You're not going to win. He'll disagree with you, while agreeing with you, just to say that you're both right, but that he's more right.
 
 

#86320 of 91713 Re: HAVE YOU EVER LOST YOUR CAR? [graphicguy] by verdugo

Dec 13, 2012 (7:00 pm)

Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 11, 2012 9:20 am)
RB...if you test drive a 500, I'd love to hear your impressions.
 
I had one for 3 weeks as a loaner. It was REALLY fun to drive. My wife loved it and wants one. It was a rental, so it was the very, very base model. Even with that little engine, it had plenty of power.
 
Front seat room was fine, couldn't tell it was a tiny car.
 
Back seat room? Only babies. Trunk space? You know how some cars use the number of set of clubs as a proxy for trunk size? For the 500, it'd be golf balls.

#86322 of 91713 Re: I need help! [robr2] by verdugo

Dec 13, 2012 (7:04 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 11, 2012 11:03 am)
First - pull out that book in the glove box and read it.
 
Best answer we've had in the forum for a while.
 
As rob said, they are pretty cheap. I just got a 8GB one from amazon.com for $8 or so.

#86323 of 91713 Re: HAVE YOU EVER LOST YOUR CAR? [tyguy] by verdugo

Dec 13, 2012 (7:15 pm)

Replying to: tyguy (Dec 12, 2012 1:43 pm)
The materials are cheap. No nice way to put it. The car may say FIAT on the badge, but the labels in various location show Chrysler Mexico, so don’t expect luxury level materials
 
I disagree with that. The materials are what corporate decides to put. Rent a 500 in Europe and it'll be the same. It has nothing to do with it being built in Mexico.
 
Are you going to say the same thing when Audi starts buidling cars in Mexico?

#86324 of 91713 Re: HAVE YOU EVER LOST YOUR CAR? [verdugo] by driver100

Dec 13, 2012 (7:49 pm)

Replying to: verdugo (Dec 13, 2012 2:57 pm)
Welcome to Arguing logic 101 by driver. My advice is to just move on. You're not going to win. He'll disagree with you, while agreeing with you, just to say that you're both right, but that he's more right.
 
You might have a point there verdigo, but then again if you look at it from a different angle you could come up with a completely different viewpoint. It is hard to say. Who really knows? Sometimes you could be right, but, at other times maybe not. It depends on the current temperature and possibly the phases of the moon.
 
I notice one thing....I may not make much sense but you seem to read all of my posts........at least I am not "boring".
 

#86325 of 91713 Re: I need help! [verdugo] by driver100

Dec 13, 2012 (7:39 pm)

Replying to: verdugo (Dec 13, 2012 7:04 pm)
As rob said, they are pretty cheap. I just got a 8GB one from amazon.com for $8 or so.
 
Ha ha....I got one at Best Buy that has 16GB for $10.
 
First - pull out that book in the glove box and read it.
 Best answer we've had in the forum for a while.
 
And you probably pull over and ask people for directions too!

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