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Re: Women Can't Negotiate says Dr. Phil [oldfarmer50] by graphicguy
Nov 11, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 11, 2009 3:03 pm)

Dunno about women being afraid to negotiate farmer. I think males take a lot more interest in cars than our female counter parts (with all due respect to our very own Kirstie, perhaps Jean Jennings or Danica Patrick). When I was married, my former spouse spent more time comparison shopping a $250 handbag than she did a $25,000 car. Just different interests, I suppose.
 
I'd probably go postal if I were forced to buy a car at Tobin. I wonder how his biz is holding up? Vegas tourism is WAY DOWN. Add to that, Chrysler/Dodge's woes...on top of that, the general malaise with most of the auto industry.
 
This was several years ago, but I took a passing interest in buying a Subie WRX when they first hit these shores several years ago. There were only two Subaru dealers in town, at the time. Both wanted MSRP for those cars. Nice cars. Neither dealer would budge. By the time they were willing to budge, one of them contacted me and asked if I was still interested in a WRX at a discount. Problem there, it was 18 months after I had visited them.
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Re: Sales Story Update [houdini1] by richard64
Nov 11, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 11, 2009 1:04 pm)

$32K? You got a wonderful deal. What a lucky son to have a dad like you.
 
Richard
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Re: Negotiating in Psycho [richard64] by driver100
Nov 11, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: richard64 (Nov 11, 2009 3:16 pm)

We realize that you can't be perfect all of the time.
 
Why not, I always tell my wife that I am!
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Re: Women Can't Negotiate says Dr. Phil [graphicguy] by richard64
Nov 11, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 11, 2009 3:19 pm)

18 months later?! Talk about being a little slow on the follow up calls!
 
Richard
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Re: Sales Story Update [houdini1] by driver100
Nov 11, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 11, 2009 1:04 pm)

I felt that $28,500. was a fair offer so I didn't push any further for a better deal.
 
I am proud of you too. You got the car for an excellent price, everyone came out ahead, the dealer will survive another day, no clobbered baby seals. It's a win (you), win (your son), win (dealer), how often does that happen?
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Re: Negotiating in Psycho [driver100] by richard64
Nov 11, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 11, 2009 3:19 pm)

I'm gad that you have a person who loves you.
 
Richard
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Re: Sales Story Update [driver100] by lrguy44
Nov 11, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 11, 2009 3:24 pm)

Every deal is a win/win deal. If I do not consider it a win for the dealership, I will not do the deal. If the customer doesn"t think it is a win for him, he won"t do the deal. That is the whole definition of a successful negotiation.
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Stories from the Bike Sales Frontlines by lvranger
Nov 11, 2009 (4:39 pm)
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Coming up on the one year anniversary of this tale so I thought I would share it with you all.
 
First a little back story. I had sold my previous bike in April 07 to pay off some high interest loans and generally get my sh*t together. So here it was a year and a half later in Nov 08 and i'm basically dead on the inside from lack of riding. The few times I bummed a buddies bike were not enough to sate the beast within. I cut my sport bike teeth on a 03 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R and coveted the heavily upgraded 05-06 ZX-6R (636 for short). Especially because they were only made for four years and 06 was the last year made.
 
On my way home from work I pass a Yamaha dealer every day. They usually have five or six used bikes sitting outside and i'll glance over to check their wares. This particular day I see a sleek black face peeking out behind a Honda CBR. Now I can spot a Ninja at 500 yards but I couldn't tell exactly what it was going by at 45mph hidden behind a row of bikes. So I continue home and look up their number. A salesman picks up, lets call him Glen because that was his name. I ask Glen if he had a 636 on his lot and if so how many miles and what did she run? I get put on hold for a minute and when he comes back he says "Sure do, 15,000, $8,999". The silence on my end was so deep that I thought I was going to fall into it. After my neurons started firing again I said "Hey there Glen, when did they start charging brand new prices for two year old used bikes?". He stammers for a second and says "oh I read the wrong line $7,999". Wow, the savings. I prefer face to face anyways so I tell him i'll stop in at lunch tomorrow.
 
The next day I stop by and start inspecting the bike without going inside. Not a minute goes by and Glen is crashing through the door and offering a vigorous handshake. Hmmm, desperation or just good salesmanship? This dealer is a ghost town and seems to have been that way recently. He immediately starts selling me on the bike which doesn't bother me because I love talking about bikes, especially 636's. He doesn't say anything that I don't already know however and eventually shuts up as i'm poring over every detail. The bike is in good shape, never been down, no oil leaks. I've always thought because of the abuse that sport bikes accrue and their high revving nature that their mileage should be looked at as half dog years. So this thing has approx 50000 comparative car miles, not bad. The idle is a little fluffy because of an aftermarket exhaust and needs to be adjusted. Luckily the exhaust is relatively quiet (I can't stand obnoxious exhausts) however it was mounted slightly crooked which immediately sets off my OCD.
 
Its good enough to buy so I go inside to talk price. He says "You're in luck, I talked to my SM and we can give you another twelve hundred off what we talked about on the phone!" I'm thinking "thats good because this thing is worth $6,000-$6,500 tops". He show me a break down that goes like this:
 
Bike - $6799
TTL - $499
Doc - $399
Prep - $299
Total - $7996
 
Will I keep my cool? Will the salesman survive? Will my bike lust overcome reason?
 
In the immortal words of a great man: To Be Continued...
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Re: Negotiating in Psycho [driver100] by jmonroe
Nov 11, 2009 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 11, 2009 3:18 pm)

...unless it is Christmas Vacation.
 
It IS Christmas Vacation (sometimes known as Griswalds Christmas) because it is about Chevy Chase's family (the Griswalds).
 
Buy the DVD, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
 
jmonroe
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Re: Stories from the Bike Sales Frontlines [lvranger] by explorerx4
Nov 11, 2009 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: lvranger (Nov 11, 2009 4:39 pm)

of course some posters on here are going to say you paid how much and got only 2 wheels?, assuming there was a sale.

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