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Women Can't Negotiate says Dr. Phil by oldfarmer50
Nov 11, 2009 (3:03 pm)
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A little while ago my wife pulled me away from my important work of scanning used car listings to watch Dr. Phil. She saw the "are you crazy?" look on my face and said: "You'll like this, it's about car buying". I almost knocked her down trying to get to the TV.
 
It seems Dr. Phil was doing a show on negotiating. In this segment he was talking about how women are afraid to negotiate the price of a car. He interviewed a number of women who said they were uncomfortable asking for a lower price because they didn't want to hurt the salesman's feelings or that they thought MSRP was the price they were supose to pay.
 
Dr. Phil then took a woman to the famous Tobin Dodge (King of Cars). Her name was Kirstie (do I smell an Edmunds plant?) . First they let a man go in and negotiate. He did the typical things : he did his research so he knew what the price should be, he got them to install a bunch of free options and at the end he got some free oil changes.
 
Then they sent Kirstie in and she basicly took whatever Chop said she should. He had to tell her about the rebates and that the car and been advertised for $2K less than she agreed to. She was such a good sport about it all that Chop GAVE her the car for free in the end.
 
I found the show was kind of insulting to women. Dr. Phil even got one woman to say: "I think we women should just hire a man to do all the car buying" (are you listening GG?). Certainly the women I've talked to on Edmunds are not this clueless.
 
Do you salespeople run into this kind of customer often? I bet there are a lot of men who don't do their homework either.
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Re: Negotiating in Psycho [driver100] by richard64
Nov 11, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 11, 2009 1:09 pm)

"And, that infers that when I am bad, I am really bad."
 
We realize that you can't be perfect all of the time.
 
Richard
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Re: Negotiating in Psycho [houdini1] by driver100
Nov 11, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 11, 2009 1:25 pm)

The employee was for real. He got fired when they discovered he would photocopy his monthly telephone bill, and he would submit the same bill 2 weeks later.
 
Curious which movie that could be though...do you or jm know the title, it sounds like fun.
Here is a list of Randy Quaid movies, but I don't think it could be one of these, unless it is Christmas Vacation.
Randy Quaid Movies
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Re: Women Can't Negotiate says Dr. Phil [oldfarmer50] by graphicguy
Nov 11, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 11, 2009 3:03 pm)

Dunno about women being afraid to negotiate farmer. I think males take a lot more interest in cars than our female counter parts (with all due respect to our very own Kirstie, perhaps Jean Jennings or Danica Patrick). When I was married, my former spouse spent more time comparison shopping a $250 handbag than she did a $25,000 car. Just different interests, I suppose.
 
I'd probably go postal if I were forced to buy a car at Tobin. I wonder how his biz is holding up? Vegas tourism is WAY DOWN. Add to that, Chrysler/Dodge's woes...on top of that, the general malaise with most of the auto industry.
 
This was several years ago, but I took a passing interest in buying a Subie WRX when they first hit these shores several years ago. There were only two Subaru dealers in town, at the time. Both wanted MSRP for those cars. Nice cars. Neither dealer would budge. By the time they were willing to budge, one of them contacted me and asked if I was still interested in a WRX at a discount. Problem there, it was 18 months after I had visited them.
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Re: Sales Story Update [houdini1] by richard64
Nov 11, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 11, 2009 1:04 pm)

$32K? You got a wonderful deal. What a lucky son to have a dad like you.
 
Richard
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Re: Negotiating in Psycho [richard64] by driver100
Nov 11, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: richard64 (Nov 11, 2009 3:16 pm)

We realize that you can't be perfect all of the time.
 
Why not, I always tell my wife that I am!
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Re: Women Can't Negotiate says Dr. Phil [graphicguy] by richard64
Nov 11, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 11, 2009 3:19 pm)

18 months later?! Talk about being a little slow on the follow up calls!
 
Richard
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Re: Sales Story Update [houdini1] by driver100
Nov 11, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 11, 2009 1:04 pm)

I felt that $28,500. was a fair offer so I didn't push any further for a better deal.
 
I am proud of you too. You got the car for an excellent price, everyone came out ahead, the dealer will survive another day, no clobbered baby seals. It's a win (you), win (your son), win (dealer), how often does that happen?
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Re: Negotiating in Psycho [driver100] by richard64
Nov 11, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 11, 2009 3:19 pm)

I'm gad that you have a person who loves you.
 
Richard
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Re: Sales Story Update [driver100] by lrguy44
Nov 11, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 11, 2009 3:24 pm)

Every deal is a win/win deal. If I do not consider it a win for the dealership, I will not do the deal. If the customer doesn"t think it is a win for him, he won"t do the deal. That is the whole definition of a successful negotiation.

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