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Re: Paying "full boat" [verdugo] by snakeweasel
Nov 10, 2009 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: verdugo (Nov 10, 2009 7:53 am)

The REALLY good salesmen will convince you girls will find you more attractive in the more expensive shirt
 
Nope, the really good salesman will convince you that the girls will only find you more attractive with the more expensive shirt and the expensive slacks, jacket, tie, shoes, socks and underwear.
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Re: Car Show [jipster] by snakeweasel
Nov 10, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Nov 10, 2009 11:28 am)

They move the front seats up to make the back seat area look bigger than it is with tons of leg room.
 
Here is the back seat of a Jaguar convertible that they had to the Chicago Auto Show back in February. Hate to see it with the seats all the way back.
 
See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com
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Re: MSRP or not MSRP? [nthe] by jipster
Nov 10, 2009 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: nthe (Nov 10, 2009 3:48 pm)

Or if you have already figured out what you are will to either buy the car for, or offer for the car, just reduce that price by $700 and make the offer.
 
The problem with that is the dealership will drop/reduce the price on one end, and put it somewhere else. Local Hyundai dealer easily agreed to drop the price of a dealer add-on of alarm system, pinstripes, and mud flappers... listed at around $1.800. But, they would not go down very far on the price of their Tucson. So, even if they say they are dropping the price of Toyogard, it costs them something to have it put on, which the customer will end up paying for in some form or another. In the end you'll always end up paying more for dealership pre-installed add-ons than you would a car with only factory equipment ( all things being equal)... nothing is free.
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Re: Car Show [snakeweasel] by jipster
Nov 10, 2009 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 10, 2009 4:53 pm)

Ouch, I couldn't fit my widdly piggy toe behind that seat, much less a leg. I guess most people who buy Jag convertibles are past the kid rearing stage.
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Re: Car Show [jipster] by british_rover
Nov 10, 2009 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Nov 10, 2009 5:26 pm)

Jag verts have never had any back seat room.
 
The couple I have sold I had to put my legs in the other side of the car to fit in the back.
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Re: Newsletter from my Dealership [oldfarmer50] by verdugo
Nov 10, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 10, 2009 3:32 pm)

Walking the lot I see that my dealer has restocked his inventory pretty well. All big stuff like Ram Trucks and big Jeeps.
 
Went by dealershi today for oil change (coupon for $19). They had a Wrangler Unlimited fully loaded (Rubicon). MSRP $36K. Next to sticker, there was a smaller once that said "Additional mark up $2,000." No fancy wheels, no protection package, nothing. Pure mark up.
 
I laughed and walked away.
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Re: Paying "full boat" [snakeweasel] by verdugo
Nov 10, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 10, 2009 4:47 pm)

pe, the really good salesman will convince you that the girls will only find you more attractive with the more expensive shirt and the expensive slacks, jacket, tie, shoes, socks and underwear.
 
LOL The baby seal outfit.
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Re: Paying "full boat" [snakeweasel] by lrguy44
Nov 10, 2009 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 10, 2009 4:44 pm)

Snake, what I was saying is a salesman should not just rattle off features. They must find out what is important to the customer. Value is built in his mind. Same with creating value - I guess by knowing the wants and needs and relating benefits is creating. But you do not build value without relating to the needs of the customer.
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Re: Paying "full boat" [lrguy44] by snakeweasel
Nov 10, 2009 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: lrguy44 (Nov 10, 2009 5:45 pm)

I agree with you on that. I am not saying that a salesman just puts out facts just that s/he has to show some type of value to the buyer rather that value is real or perceived. And I do agree that what one person sees as value is not what another will see.
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Re: MSRP or not MSRP? [nthe] by driver100
Nov 10, 2009 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: nthe (Nov 10, 2009 3:03 pm)

MSRP is the "RETAIL" price. nothing wrong with starting there. Of course I am in internet sales, so I start just about everything at or below invoice
 
Uh uh, MSRP is Manufacturers SUGGESTED Retail Price which means nothing if no one really sells at that price.
 
You car guys can use it as a guide, but it doesn't mean much if almost know one pays it. In fact, the government would probably go after all the car dealers if they all banned together and only charged MSRP.
 
I like that dealer that has the prices on the windshield, and charge $400 over cost.
I could live with that. Sounds fair all around. I guess they will make more on the options as well.

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