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Re: Paying "full boat" [driver100] by jmonroe
Nov 09, 2009 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 09, 2009 6:12 am)

I think there is a fear that if salespeople start at a realistic number the final number will be even lower. I am not so sure that will happen.
 
I have to disagree with you on this one ‘driver’. I can’t believe I’m in the car biz guys corner on this one. This REALLY hurts me.
 
Since my experience with starting out with the internet approach, when I bought in ’05 and ’06, showed me that the dealers internet price was a good “starting point”, I figured that would apply when I looked at the internet price of the dealer I bought the Genny from in March. So, I tried to get him to lower that price. NO luck this time he wouldn’t budge and because I felt he had a very good price we did the deal. Like I’ve mentioned before, I bumped him up $600 on my trade but he had a good price as advertised for his car.
 
I also use the approach…”if you don’t ask you don’t get”. It’s just the way the car biz works (both sides).
 
jmonroe
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Question for boomer???? by driver100
Nov 09, 2009 (8:58 am)
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There are ads running nationally (Canada) for a Dodge Caravan. Freight adds $1400, Prep $699 (bit excessive) air tax $100. Adds up to about $22,000.
Seems like a pretty good value. My question is, what are the chances you would actually pay that price and drive out the door....no haggle - no hassle.
 
2010 DODGE GR CARAVAN CANADIAN VALUE PKG $88 WKLY TAX INCLUDED
Price: MSRP $29,995 Sale Price $17,999
Payment: $130*
Body Style: Minivan
Fuel Type: Flexible Fuel
Transmission: 4 Speed Sport Automatic O/D
Drive Train: Front Wheel Drive
Exterior: N/A
Interior: Grey, Cloth
Stock #: New 2010 Grand
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Re: Paying "full boat" [jmonroe] by driver100
Nov 09, 2009 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Nov 09, 2009 7:51 am)

So, I tried to get him to lower that price. NO luck this time he wouldn’t budge and because I felt he had a very good price we did the deal.
 
You just won a point for me JM. You are an intelligent buyer, you got the lowest price possible, you realized that, what difference did it make if they gave you a phony MSRP? Better than going through the grinder.
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Re: MSRP or not MSRP? [bolivar] by dino001
Nov 09, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: bolivar (Nov 09, 2009 2:00 am)

Isn't Texas Gulf States rather than SW? Gulf States is basically SET for Texas (and what else) - exactly the same practices. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the same people.
 
Another case of "I care what I can see", which is profits from the sales that were made, not losses on those customers who went elsewhere cause they couldn't stand it.
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Re: Paying "full boat" [verdugo] by mikefm58
Nov 09, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: verdugo (Nov 08, 2009 8:17 pm)

Whatever happenned to Bobst?
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Re: Paying "full boat" [driver100] by jimbres
Nov 09, 2009 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 09, 2009 6:12 am)

The bully, cry baby, tantrum throwing bobst gets all the attention.......
 
Bobst wasn't that kind of guy. He was, as I recall, unfailingly soft-spoken & polite. He disliked unpleasantness & he felt that his particular approach made buying cars relatively painless for both sides.
 
When he walked into a dealership, he knew exactly what he wanted to buy & how much he wanted to pay for it. All he wanted from the sales staff was a simple "yes" or "no" to the price that he offered to pay. If the answer was "no", Bobst would shake hands, wish everyone a good day & leave. He was as far from a bully, cry baby or tantrum thrower as a person could be. He hated rudeness & raised voices.
 
I'm not sure if I agree with his approach, but it could work for someone who dislikes haggling.
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Reply to post above by driver100
Nov 09, 2009 (9:51 am)
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If the answer was "no", Bobst would shake hands, wish everyone a good day & leave
 
My mistake, I wasn't around at the time of the Great Bobst, so that was my impression. But, I have to agree with him, if you want to do a sale as painlessly as possible, it is a great method. Once again, most people are intelligent enough to know phony MSRP's, why not just get on with the final negotiations.
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Re: Paying "full boat" [mikefm58] by jmonroe
Nov 09, 2009 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Nov 09, 2009 9:12 am)

Whatever happenned to Bobst?
 
You haven't heard?
 
He finally ran into a dealer that made a baby seal out of him.
 
jmonroe
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Re: Paying "full boat" [driver100] by boomchek
Nov 09, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 09, 2009 6:12 am)

Keep in mind, the ones who make an offer to buy today aren't just doing so for the thrill or fun of it or to test the waters. They ARE ready to buy, and usually whip out their credit card with their offers to show it.
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Re: Question for boomer???? [driver100] by boomchek
Nov 09, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 09, 2009 8:58 am)

Sure you can pay that price. We have those models in stock. All day long!!!
 
The Caravans and the Rams are our best sellers right now and have always been.

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