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Replying to: verdugo (Nov 08, 2009 8:15 pm) That’s exactly what I asked a couple years ago here on this forum when I was introduced to this SET thing. I don’t know about most but I’d have to fall in love with something else or do as ‘bolivar’s’ neighbor is thinking of doing; go out of state. If prices are hundreds more and approaching a grand, it would be worth it. Aside from SET in Florida, you have the ridiculous DOC fees, so that’s a double whammy in Florida when buying a Toyota. My Brother didn’t like it so he did something about it. I mentioned this a while back that my Brother, who lives in Delray Beach, couldn’t come to terms when he was going to turn in his leased Solara convertible at the end of ’07. He leased that car in the Burgh area in ‘04 and drove it down to Florida before he moved there permanently. He was thinking of getting another one but the SET thing turned him off. So he decides to fall in love with an ‘08 Sebring hardtop and when the negotiating broke down with that car due to the DOC fees and the general snake pit atmosphere of buying in south Florida, he decided to visit a dealer in the Burgh area when he was going to be visiting during the holidays at the end of December ’07. The local guy up here had several and was willing to deal so he bought. He was still going to come out ahead even after he looked in to one of these places that do this car delivery thing. It turned out he did better than that when our nephew said, “if you buy me a ticket home on one of those cheapy fare deals and I can stay a week to thaw out my bones, I’ll drive it down for you at the end of January”. Some guys have all the luck.  jmonroe |
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 09, 2009 6:12 am) I have to disagree with you on this one ‘driver’. I can’t believe I’m in the car biz guys corner on this one. This REALLY hurts me.  Since my experience with starting out with the internet approach, when I bought in ’05 and ’06, showed me that the dealers internet price was a good “starting point”, I figured that would apply when I looked at the internet price of the dealer I bought the Genny from in March. So, I tried to get him to lower that price. NO luck this time he wouldn’t budge and because I felt he had a very good price we did the deal. Like I’ve mentioned before, I bumped him up $600 on my trade but he had a good price as advertised for his car. I also use the approach…”if you don’t ask you don’t get”. It’s just the way the car biz works (both sides). jmonroe
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There are ads running nationally (Canada) for a Dodge Caravan. Freight adds $1400, Prep $699 (bit excessive) air tax $100. Adds up to about $22,000. Seems like a pretty good value. My question is, what are the chances you would actually pay that price and drive out the door....no haggle - no hassle. 2010 DODGE GR CARAVAN CANADIAN VALUE PKG $88 WKLY TAX INCLUDED Price: MSRP $29,995 Sale Price $17,999 Payment: $130* Body Style: Minivan Fuel Type: Flexible Fuel Transmission: 4 Speed Sport Automatic O/D Drive Train: Front Wheel Drive Exterior: N/A Interior: Grey, Cloth Stock #: New 2010 Grand
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Replying to: jmonroe (Nov 09, 2009 7:51 am) You just won a point for me JM. You are an intelligent buyer, you got the lowest price possible, you realized that, what difference did it make if they gave you a phony MSRP? Better than going through the grinder. |
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Replying to: bolivar (Nov 09, 2009 2:00 am) Another case of "I care what I can see", which is profits from the sales that were made, not losses on those customers who went elsewhere cause they couldn't stand it.
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Replying to: verdugo (Nov 08, 2009 8:17 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 09, 2009 6:12 am) Bobst wasn't that kind of guy. He was, as I recall, unfailingly soft-spoken & polite. He disliked unpleasantness & he felt that his particular approach made buying cars relatively painless for both sides. When he walked into a dealership, he knew exactly what he wanted to buy & how much he wanted to pay for it. All he wanted from the sales staff was a simple "yes" or "no" to the price that he offered to pay. If the answer was "no", Bobst would shake hands, wish everyone a good day & leave. He was as far from a bully, cry baby or tantrum thrower as a person could be. He hated rudeness & raised voices. I'm not sure if I agree with his approach, but it could work for someone who dislikes haggling. |
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If the answer was "no", Bobst would shake hands, wish everyone a good day & leave My mistake, I wasn't around at the time of the Great Bobst, so that was my impression. But, I have to agree with him, if you want to do a sale as painlessly as possible, it is a great method. Once again, most people are intelligent enough to know phony MSRP's, why not just get on with the final negotiations. |
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Nov 09, 2009 9:12 am) You haven't heard? He finally ran into a dealer that made a baby seal out of him.  jmonroe
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