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Re: Anybody miss me? [driver100] by richard64
Nov 06, 2009 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 06, 2009 10:09 am)

"Curious to know your reasoning."
 
If you recall, the next car was to be selected by my wife. She had a 2000 CRV and loved it. She has been wanting another Honda. When I bought the convertible, the agreement was a Honda the next time around. I have finally convinced her that the CRV is a little small for me. She has agreed to the Pilot.
 
Yes, I do favor American auto models. The Explorer has been a great car and, if I had my choice, it would probably be traded for a Flex. This time, I have to yield the floor to my wife. My sister has two Pilots. I have enjoyed riding in both of them.
 
Richard
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Re: Another car pricing site.... [jipster] by richard64
Nov 06, 2009 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Nov 06, 2009 11:35 am)

"With isell retiring you are in prime position to make first team pot stirrer."
 
Replace the infamous Isell ?! I may be good, but I'm not THAT good! Still, I shall make every effort to do my part.
 
Richard
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Re: Anybody miss me? [richard64] by isellhondas
Nov 06, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: richard64 (Nov 06, 2009 6:31 pm)

Explorers are so hit and miss.
 
People either have great luck with them or they are nothing but trouble.
 
Our semi-retired 1993 Eddie Bauer sits in our side yerd with 163,000 miles. It got our son through a tough winter last year until his lease ended on his S-2000 which was undrivable in the snow or ice. The 2000.00 Explorer never missed a beat. IT doesn't leak or use oil, the A/C work great and the engine and trans have never been opened up. It sits with a set of studded snows on it, ready to go! I do need to have a new thermostat installed and the lic. plate lights fixed.
 
Even the leather is in good shape.
 
It is, however, one major "event" from being totalled but it serves well as an extra car if needed.
 
It is NOT a freeway car! Like all Explorers of it's vintage, it is squirrley as can be at anything over 60 MPH. It's no wonder so many of these flipped.
 
This one did too, when it was a month old on an icy curvy road. 14,000 later it was restored to health with no apparant lasting effects.
 
Would I drive it to Alaska? Not on your life!
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Re: Anybody miss me? [explorerx4] by richard64
Nov 06, 2009 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 06, 2009 2:55 pm)

I agree. I think that if I drive it across country next June, the trip will be a fitting farewell. Let's hope that I don't have to push it onto Isell's lot. Four more years on your Explorer? I thought that yours was older than my '03. When it comes to wives and cars, they don't always think things through to the end.
 
Richard
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Re: No insult intended.. [isellhondas] by jmonroe
Nov 06, 2009 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 06, 2009 6:16 pm)

Heck, some of you may think I'm not such a bad guy after all!
 
I could never think like that.
 
jmonroe
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Re: Paying "full boat" [jimbres] by jmonroe
Nov 06, 2009 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 06, 2009 6:21 pm)

And I think that you meant to write "sight" here.
 
Enough already. One more correction and you won't be "seeing" so well this week end.
 
jmonroe
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Re: No insult intended.. [isellhondas] by richard64
Nov 06, 2009 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 06, 2009 6:16 pm)

"...if Edmunds were to host an event for some of the 'regulars' here..."
 
I have thought about this very thing before. There IS a great deal lost in the interchange here. If I attended such an event with you guys, I can assure you that you would place me at a table by myself.
 
"Heck, some of you may think that I'm not such a bad guy after all!"
 
It took me the first year to get used to you. I thought that some of your responses were curt and sharp. There were a few times that you said nice things. The more that I read your posts, the more that I realized that you were honest, up front, and professional. You never attack the person; you attack the idea. There is a major difference there. You're pretty much a no nonsense person. I can respect and listen to those people.
 
Richard
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Re: Paying "full boat" [jimbres] by richard64
Nov 06, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 06, 2009 6:21 pm)

He used to be a posting friend of mine. Please tell him that "week end" is one word.
 
Richard
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Re: No insult intended.. [isellhondas] by jipster
Nov 06, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 06, 2009 6:16 pm)

if Edmunds were to host a event for some of the "regulars" here, there would be groups of people I would rather sit with.
 
Besides me and snake... who would they be?
 
Heck, some of you may think I'm not such a bad guy after all
 
Just don't put me on the back porch and it's a deal.
 
Speaking of paying full boat on a car. My brother says he is going into the dealership tomorrow to order a Chevy Equinox. Said his wife has a list of options she wants, and that the two dealers he went to were sold out and had waiting lists for them. Doesn't sound good. $$$
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Re: Anybody miss me? [isellhondas] by richard64
Nov 06, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 06, 2009 6:40 pm)

I have a great idea. Hold on to your '93 until I bring you my '03 in June. You can then replace your Eddie Bauer with mine.
 
Let's talk grinding for a moment. You know that I always do this. I'm typically a Type A happy person. Still, I will sit in the dealership for five hours working out the deal. I want and expect the dealer to make some profit. After all, he is in business. At the same time, I'm not going to play baby seal. There isn't a car made that is worth MSRP to me. This is just me. I know that there is some mark up, and I don't intend to pay for all of it. Also, I'm not out to hurt the salesman. If he treats me fairly, I will recommend him time and time again. John sold me my convertible last year. He spent three hours with me as I "grinded". I got a great deal and the two of us are good buddies. I have sent him three customers this year. Whether they "grinded" or not is their business. I simply told them that John was a super salesman and that the dealership gave me a good deal.
 
I expect the salesman, the dealer, and the F&I to all grind. I am not offended by it. How can I be? I'm doing it as well. The entire process can be done in a pleasant and professional manner. If I have to walk, I don't stomp my foot in anger. I simply get up, thank them for their time, and leave. So much of the deal hinges on how both parties conduct themselves.
 
When I come west to trade with you, I won't be spending three to five hours at your place. We'll have the deal done before I leave North Carolina. I'll just grind you via email.
 
Richard

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