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47903 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:51 PM
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 04, 2009 4:04 pm) Today, more than ever, we just can't believe all the things that we know.... 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 04, 2009 4:04 pm) Toyota in Decline in 2009 (rhymes) http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.Brand problems swept under the rug (or mat in this case  )/876 There seems to be a whole lot more to it than just a mat swedging a failed gas pedal design. Lots of cases of runaway acceleration or unexpected acceleration and DEATHS involved. People are claiming unexpected acceleration who did NOT have floor mats. These start with Prius. Read the two discusssions linked above for your convenience. |
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 04, 2009 9:31 am) I used to think any dealership can make the same deal as any other outside the local area dealer. They all pay the same thing for their units, regardless of geographic location (not taking into account region specific incentives). While I have no proof of this, I do believe some manufacturers are dolling out dealer incentives that aren't easily documented. So, we don't know what they are. That's the only way I can explain such a wide diversion in prices from one locale to another. As hard as some dealers try to prop up the value and margins on their vehicles (via aftermarket add-ons, region specific demand differences, etc), price still sells cars....at least for those who do a bit of research and come with some knowledge into the showroom. A bit OT, but I'm addicted to a TV show on one of the cable channels that chronicles some young, hot shot, real estate sales guys in CA who try to sell Million Dollar + homes. I notice they drive Porches, higher end BMWs, and Mercedes. Forget for a minute that I find their personalities grating (they'd never be my real estate agent), I could see them waltzing into a dealership and paying "full boat" for a car. I think those are few and far between, even for luxury buyers, particularly given the economic realities of today. Maybe mandmanmoo will chime in with a bit of info about how his clients view laying down 6 figure checks for his wares. I would guess that his business isn't regional, but more national in nature, since he deals in high end cars.
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Nov 04, 2009 6:25 pm) There are some nice little islands down there - like Anna Maria which are simply too much money for what they are. There is a lot to be said for no winter to speak of.... |
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Replying to: jmonroe (Nov 04, 2009 8:55 am) Well my wife insisted on a Hyundai Sante Fe SUV this time since she rode in several girl friends cars of that make. I just picked up a new one for her from your dealer, and it hurts to say the thing is as perfect as any GM I have ever rolled out, your and our dealer gave me a very good price and nice thoughtful service. I am still in shock that there is a non GM auto in my driveway, surely now the world will soon end.
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Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 05, 2009 6:32 am) I watch the same show ... I've gotta believe that the cars are leased, since they ought to be able to write off the payment. Still, I'm not sure I see them haggling over the price, since the whole idea is to promote an image or brand. IIRC, the cars are a 911 Carrera 4, a 760Li and an AMG CL63.
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Replying to: michaell (Nov 05, 2009 8:55 am) All but the 911 typically have sweet lease deals too. |
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Replying to: wesleyg (Nov 05, 2009 8:53 am) Congrats. But, it would have made for a more interesting story, for us regulars, if you had first gone to another dealership and tried to have gotten crappy service. These Smart Shopper discussions are starting to get pretty weak and boring. We need some fresh blood in here. Myself, isell, jmonroe and a few others have served our time as pot stirrers... we need someone else to step up to the plate here. 
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Replying to: jipster (Nov 05, 2009 10:48 am) Another thing, the Chev dealer stated he would generously knock off about 2 grand on the SUV since it was an 09 model, told him that was only going to be the beginning of his fabulous discounts before he would be able to sell this to me. I reminded him I had purchased or leased 7 new cars from his employer since the year 2000, and if he wanted to hit 8, he was going to start loosening up, but I was fighting a battle I couldnt win because of the wife. Since I keep my cars only 2 to 3 years, I am now about ready for a new one for myself, my guidelines are a full size car, the largest engine available (now drive an 06 Impala SS), gas milage is never a factor, so am now casting a longing eye on V8 Genesis as our illustrious partner jmonroe is sporting and going back soon to our Hyundai dealer to see what I can do. I figure since my automotive world is falling apart, I might as well buy two foreign cars since I have traiterously left my GM world already. I was also pleased that at the Hyundai dealer, no attempt or mention was ever made by them to sell upgrades, warranties, mop and glow or the usual add on stuff, just agreed on the price, paid 'em and off I went. Maybe when I take it there for my first oil change, I will get crappy service which I can bitterly complain about. |
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Nov 04, 2009 6:25 pm) Wow!! Florida has farms for gorgeous horses????? Where do they send the ugly ones.... Cleveland ??????? 
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