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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 01, 2009 7:34 pm) KYFDX, Lets agree to diagree on this one... ( but I am still right  ) Here is why I disagree with you. One, are familar with the compliance regulations of a dealership or business practices? I didn't think so. I am. I work for a publicly owned company and have proper knowledge of things should be because it is my job to know these rules. Yes each state has different regulations on Doc fees... Meaning pricing to them.... But you can not charge one person a doc fee and not another.... Yes do dealers say OK I will make the deal and you don't have to pay the doc fee..... BUT all you do is deduct the doc fee from the price and on the contracts the doc fee is still listed!  If a dealer were to get audited (and I have been through at least one a year) and they are found to not be charging a doc fee to everyone. They are breaking compliance laws and regulations.... The reason the say it is the state is because if a dealer where to be brought to court they would be brought to court in there own state right? They wouldn't be brought before congress, right? So that is what I am talking about. There are many rules and regulations that protect consumers and dealers..... There are so many new regulations now and that is one of the reasons paper work takes so long. GP |
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jul 02, 2009 6:00 am) Happy Independence Day to all. Though things are never perfect in life, we are indeed fortunate to live in America. Richard |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 01, 2009 8:16 pm) You are fogetting one stereo type here guys.... Credit challenged people, they can be any race or sex...... GP |
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Replying to: driver100 (Jul 02, 2009 3:13 am) 1. what would your typical doc fee be? 2. Is it the same for every model, a Sentra and a Maxima? 3. What do you estimate are the real costs of preparing the paper work? Replies to this message: 1) $295 is what we charge and around $300 is the norm for this market 2) The doc fee is a "administartion fee" so it does not matter which vehicle is purchased 3) Real costs of paper work.... depneds on how much you think a dealer should charge by the hour for the work of making sure it is all done correctly. I understand most people think that the paper work is printed up in 10 minutes and they think that it is done.... But what you don't see is the behind the scenes stuff. Making sure your insurance agent recieves the appropiate documents, making sure the banks recieve the proper docemnets filled out correctly, the time and effort it takes to work some of the banks to get approvals ( even with 800 credit scores), the time it takes to get the vehicles registered legaly.... now that I think about it maybe we should charge more GP
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 02, 2009 7:16 am) Now you are completely off base. If there was collusion in my state all Doc Fees would be the same, but they vary widly. Just another unwarranted attack on dealers. What business are you in? |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 02, 2009 7:10 am) If you'll pardon the generalizations, people who find Answers generally want a quick response to a car problem and may have little interest in carrying on an online conversation with a bunch of strangers (fascinating though you may be  ). So I don't think you can tag the one-off label on people who come to the CarSpace forums like this. Some people join and post, some go to Answers, some write a consumer review and vent or laud that way. Who knows what their motives are (but rest assured that shills are easily spotted). Steve (now going back to lurking host mode) |
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 02, 2009 8:08 am) I noted some dealers fighting being closed by the manufacturer. I have yet to see any dealer throw up hands and just call it quits. There must be ample profit. Therefore I have no sympathy and will continue to say...If you want more profit pay the manufacturer less rather than charging the customer more. My money acquisition fee trumps any dealer fees hands down. |
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Replying to: mako1a (Jul 02, 2009 9:13 am) Since according to the franchise agreement, those costs are not negotiable how do you propose to get the manufacturers to charge less for thier product? Looking for a solution, not a statement.
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Replying to: lrguy44 (Jul 02, 2009 9:22 am)
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Replying to: mako1a (Jul 02, 2009 9:13 am) Irrelevant, but to your point - there are PLENTY of dealers that closed dooors in the last year voluntarily. Oldest Chevy dealer in California, our next door Chrysler dealer, local Cadillac dealer, and many more. |
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