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Re: Babecat's Saga [snakeweasel] by fezo
Jul 01, 2009 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 01, 2009 2:07 pm)

"Lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, and talk by the hour."
 
Thomas Jefferson
 
The idea that something is beyond a lawyer is a concept that I find difficult to accept that any lawyer believes....
 
Where's Bob when we need him?
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [greanpea68] by houdini1
Jul 01, 2009 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 01, 2009 1:17 pm)

I just thought you guys could use a good laugh !!
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [greanpea68] by houdini1
Jul 01, 2009 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 01, 2009 1:11 pm)

GP, I have heard that one a lot, but following your logic, if you have to charge everyone the same price for a doc fee, why don't you also have to charge everyone the same price for a car?
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [explorerx4] by driver100
Jul 01, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jul 01, 2009 1:35 pm)

and there is no place to unlock the car from the outside on the passenger side.
 
Thanks Explorer for the Happy Canada Day. And a Happy upcoming July 4th to you and all our U.S. friends here.
 
You could be right, I didn't actually see the car. All, I know is what they told me. He Drives a Lexus and she has a Honda CVX. He is a retired surgeon so he is a pretty bright guy. He said he has to open the passenger door with a key, before they get in the car because there is no remote, and the little pin button is too small to grasp.
 
We probably need someone with a 2009 Focus to clarify. I am curious so I am going to see what I can find out. On NBC news they said Ford was tops in sales in the U.S. last month and is leading in sales so far this year...even beating Toyota.....and that is good news. On the other hand California and Pennsylvania are in deep bankrupcy.
 
Happy Independence Day!
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [greanpea68] by driver100
Jul 01, 2009 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 01, 2009 1:11 pm)

THe correct wording should be it is charged to everyone in order to be "Compliant" You can't charge one person a DOC fee and not another.... make sense
 
Now I get it! You have to rip every one off equally.
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Re: Did anyone else get theirs? [wesleyg] by jmonroe
Jul 01, 2009 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: wesleyg (Jul 01, 2009 12:18 pm)

you pulled me out of the bushes again…
 
One, it has to be on a limited access road (read interstate) so that no offender can turn off on a street when he realizes whats about to happen to him. Two, you must always stop the first leading vehicle, get that vehicle stopped, then carefully and cautiously hand stop the other or other two vehicles as they approach.

 
Thanks officer I hoped you’d clear this up.
 
Back to the bushes.
 
That must be a genes thing with you guys.
 
Thanks again,
 
jmonroe
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [driver100] by jmonroe
Jul 01, 2009 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jul 01, 2009 3:48 pm)

On the other hand California and Pennsylvania are in deep bankrupcy.
 
Could that be why PA is trying to raise $9M via traffic citations?
 
jmonroe
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [jmonroe] by verdugo
Jul 01, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jul 01, 2009 4:10 pm)

Could that be why PA is trying to raise $9M via traffic citations?
 
If it only were so simple for CA
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [greanpea68] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 01, 2009 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: greanpea68 (Jul 01, 2009 1:11 pm)

THe correct wording should be it is charged to everyone in order to be "Compliant" You can't charge one person a DOC fee and not another.... make sense... If you do that you open your self up for a law suit and everyone is entitled to their $250 back in a court of law. Once you do perform a way of business you have to perform the same level of business to everyone
 
I'm sorry.. but, there is no legal basis for that, either... That doesn't mean that your dealership doesn't treat it that way.... but, plenty of dealers will drop the doc fee, if it means the deal is going away (plenty won't, as well).
 
Now, if you discriminate on the basis of race, sex, creed, etc, etc, etc... then, it won't matter if it's doc fees or anything else, you'll have a problem.. But, the doc fee is just as negotiable as any other variable in the deal that isn't required by the state..
 
Want to hear about the sales stories from Texas, where they tell every buyer that the state requires them to charge each buyer an inventory tax?
 
Didn't think so...
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Re: Dealer bate and switch [kyfdx] by jwilliams2
Jul 01, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 01, 2009 7:34 pm)

My, haven't we beat this dead horse long enough? Yes, a dealer could be charged with discrimination, if the people they waive the doc fee for are one race, sex, creed, etc, and some minority's are charged. If I were a dealer, I wouldn't want to take that chance. I would simply charge everyone, and not risk a legal battle.
 
At the dealership I used to work at, even the employees paid the doc fee! And the people who thought they were negotiating it away were simply getting the selling price reduced by that amount. (And yes, the salespeople hate doc fee's)
 
Anyway, isn't there a seperate discussion on documentation fee's? Perhaps a kind host could steer folks towards it.

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