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Re: Thanks [madmanmoo] by cdnpinhead
Jan 10, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Jan 10, 2009 8:31 am)

Wow! You're on a roll -- good stuff.
 
Given that I buy a car every 4-5 years (one for me, one for my wife), I'll take all this into account in 2012 or thereabouts.
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Re: child safety locks [boomchek] by murphydog
Jan 10, 2009 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jan 10, 2009 5:41 pm)

Boom -
 
That was my assumption as well.
 
On my car there is a rectangular hole just below the lock mechanism - the service guy shined a light in, but there is nothing to move or flip.
 
On the 09 there is a rectangular hole as well (clearly part of the manufacturing process), but the 09 has a small latch you can flip to disable the door - aka child lock. This is what I expected to find on my car as it seems to be on every other 4 door.
 
I will speak to the head service writer at my dealer to see what the deal is.
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The Last 20 or So Posts . . . by cdnpinhead
Jan 10, 2009 (7:15 pm)
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illustrate what's best about this board, as well as providing useful information in an excellent context.
 
We're leery of you and you're sick of us. Ain't life grand?!
 
Well, yes, yes it is. I've definitely taken what's been posted here over the past few years into account when I gird my loins to acquire a new ride. I posted the shortcomings of the particular store I had to deal with last March. Those folks couldn't find any orifice on their bodies with both hands and a magnifying glass.
 
In a perfect world, one or more of you folks would have been running an Acura store in the Phoenix area.
 
This is not a perfect world.
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Re: child safety locks [murphydog] by explorerx4
Jan 10, 2009 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: murphydog (Jan 10, 2009 7:03 pm)

just a thought. maybe it's progammable.
 
edit:
i found this comment doing a google search:
"The back doors are child-lock standard, which means by pulling on the door handle, the doors will not open. The back doors will then only unlock after someone in the front has opened one of their doors (or pushed the unlock button). Now to make sure no one is trapped back there, you can physically pull the knob up on the back doors to unlock them, I guess you just have to hope the kids give-up after trying to open the doors with the handles. "
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Re: Thanks Guys! [richard64] by tidester HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 10, 2009 5:38 pm)

Leave it to my wonderful friends at Edmunds to provide the ammunition that I need to purchase a car.
 
We're expecting some great frontlines stories to come out this, Richard. The pressure's on!
 
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Re: Thanks Guys! [tidester] by driver100
Jan 11, 2009 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jan 10, 2009 9:13 pm)

Leave it to my wonderful friends at Edmunds to provide the ammunition that I need to purchase a car.
 
On the other hand Richard, there's just as many reasons not to purchase a car at this time. A few might be that the 2010s will be out soon and the GM will probably get dropped, and 09s will be even cheaper, if there's any undertakers who haven't grabbed all the black ones. another is there could be some new models available next year that are more up to date, and maybe you should try a Fusion - they are supposed to be pretty competitive (I am supposed to get a rental one in Florida for February - although I never get what I am supposed to get??? )
 
Since you keep your cars a long time you might want to be sure Ford will make it through the recession/depression which could last from 6 months (not likely) to 1 or 2 years, and some say 3!
I am not trying to disuade (please check the spelling for me Richard) you from the GM, I kind of like those old boats, but there's a lot to mull over (mull, mull, mull, there's an interesting word).
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Re: Thanks Guys! [driver100] by percussionist
Jan 11, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 11, 2009 9:01 am)

(I am supposed to get a rental one in Florida for February - although I never get what I am supposed to get??? )
 
The fine print usually says something like this:
 
Midsize car - Ford Fusion (or similar)
 
That (or similar) means you can get anything in the same "size class". Rental size classes almost always run smaller than reality, too. The Fusion might actually be considered "Full Size" by rental standards.
 
Long story short - rental companies have no idea what will be on their lot tomorrow, much less in February. However, you can ask them to note your request for a Fusion on the reservation. That way, if one comes in that day, they'll try to hold it for you.
 
Let us know how it drives if you get one - joel, what are your thoughts on the Fusion?
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Re: Thanks Guys! [driver100] by richard64
Jan 11, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 11, 2009 9:01 am)

You are correct. There are many reasons not to buy a car now. I was saddened to read yesterday that the '09 Grand Marquis will be the last one. I had not known this. It was in one of the 68 reviews that I read on the Grand Marquis. I did find it interesting that out of 68 owners, only three were not pleased with the GM. It would be difficult to top that ratio of reviews on any car I would think. I also found it interesting that the owners boasted about the safe handling of the car---since we had discussed the SC here at length. Naturally, all 68 owners noted the comfort of the car and the floating ride. The two negatives were the gas consumption compared to other cars, and the resale value. With the resale values so low, many owners suggested buying a one or two year old GM to get more bang for your buck, but still end up with a luxury car. Several owners stated that they got the luxury of the Town Car without the price tag. That had been my thought as well. Most owners were also pleased with the low cost of maintenance and the easy access to simple parts for repairs. That's a nice plus.
 
The fact that this is the last of the GM's made a definite impact on my thinking. I don't care for owning a car out of production. That's what happened to me last year when I was considering the Solara convertible. I don't know why I pick the ones that are going out of production. Still, I love the Grand Marquis. It isn't totally out of the picture at this point. As you say, there is much to mull over.
 
Yes, you do need another "s" in "dissuade".
 
BTW, I'm not the only one who wants a black car. Mack wrote to me yesterday that they are getting a new Infinity. His wife wanted black but I think that they are going to get a white one in stock. Mack is off the chemo and feeling better. The bad part is that his tumors have begun to grow again. He came down to Duke Hospital to have discussions on some new trial treatments. Some are pretty risky and he has made no decisions. I'm concerned about him. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. He wanted to be remembered to all of you here.
 
Richard
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Re: Thanks Guys! [richard64] by fezo
Jan 11, 2009 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 11, 2009 10:13 am)

Hey, Richard! After all of the end of the Solara talk Toyota kept it at least another year for just the convertible. I don't think Mercury is in any danger of extending the GM beyond 09 however.
 
Say hi to Mack for me. He's indeed in thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Thanks Guys! [richard64] by driver100
Jan 11, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 11, 2009 10:13 am)

. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. He wanted to be remembered to all of you here.
 
Definitely hope all the best for Mac and he is often in my thoughts, whenever I go on this site. Miss him a lot, and he is a great inspiration to all that know him.

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