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Can they really do that? by percussionist
Jan 07, 2009 (10:42 am)
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Speaking of fitzmall and prices, I did use that information when negotiating on my new MS3. Fitz had it priced at $21,704 including destination. What other fees do they add to that, because I can't see how they'd make a profit otherwise. When doing the numbers, I paid $22,299, which includes $299 doc fee. This equals approximately 2.3% profit - fairly skinny deal. It's still worth the extra money for me not to need to drive to MD for a new car, though. But, it was nice to have that information available.
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Re: new car listings [kiawah] by deltheking
Jan 07, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Jan 07, 2009 10:21 am)

So far fitzmall,carmax and autotrader are the only sites I have found which have available new car listings at a good no haggle price.Any other?
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Re: Can they really do that? [percussionist] by kiawah
Jan 07, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: percussionist (Jan 07, 2009 10:42 am)

Actually, nothing extra. There is a poster over in the Toyota Camry prices that just bought one a day ago. He reported a very positive buying experience, as all others that I've seen post in these forums. Buying out of state they waive their published 99 doc fee, because the buyer handles their own doc when they get back home.
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Re: The Adventure [michaell] by boomchek
Jan 07, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: michaell (Jan 06, 2009 6:20 pm)

And you as well, boom .. let's hope 2009 is better for you than 2008
 
haha, I see that more than one other person understands my natyive language.
 
To add to the restaurant/car selling career topic...
 
I will concur with most people here that it will be nearly impossible to do both. It's hard enough being in car sales and juggling your family time, let alone another job.
 
Murphy's Law always makes sure that when you have a dinner reserved right after work, that a sale and delivery will "pop up" at last minute to delay you, or a test drive will come in right when you're on your way out the door to go home, or an appointment will come 2 hours late and you'll be 4 hours behind on whatever you were planning after work.
 
If you can juggle the time then it's a good combination if you can cross-promote both businesses, especially if they're located close to each other. And quite a few people I know in the car biz who are succesful came from the resturant biz. But they did one at a time not both.
 
Anyhow good luck. Don't tell your hiring manager that you're plaaning on running a restuarant at the same time, as they might see that you won't be 100% commited to the car sales job because of other obligations.
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Re: Thanks [richard64] by oldfarmer50
Jan 07, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am)

"...I'm going to let the Man Upstairs guide me through this..."
 
You have a car salesman living on the next floor?
 
Seriously, if you really want this car go get it. You will never get a better deal than right now. Last year I was in a similar situation. The car I wanted was available,had the right options and was the exact color. The price was at the top end of what I could afford so I wavered, worried about what I would do if I spent my limit and I hated the car 6 months down the road. I finally went ahead with the purchase and was happy.
 
Just be sure you get it the way YOU want it. Don't skimp, don't compromise. Good luck.
 
Come back when the deal is finished and tell us all the details so everyone can tell you what you did wrong and how you got cheated.
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Re: Thanks [kirstie_h] by richard64
Jan 07, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Jan 07, 2009 10:35 am)

Thanks. I agree.
 
Richard
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Re: Can they really do that? [percussionist] by oldfarmer50
Jan 07, 2009 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: percussionist (Jan 07, 2009 10:42 am)

"...What other fees do they add..."
 
When I bought my Mitsu I called Fitzmall in Annapolis. They had a number of cars like the one I was shopping for $1000 under invoice. Unfortunately, none of them was equipped the way I wanted. They were willing to order but said the price would be invoice + $99 doc +$400 ad fee. This made it more expensive than the local dealer.
 
I asked why the price was $1K less on the in-stock models and was told "those internet cars are all lot queens that we're trying to get rid of".
 
I don't know how the other brands work it but the Mitsu dealer couldn't make it worth a 500 mile drive.
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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [isellhondas] by capitano
Jan 07, 2009 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jan 06, 2009 12:08 pm)

Isell,
 
It depends on when you got out. The USAA website lists these as groups eligible for membership:
 
Children of USAA members.
Active-duty officers and enlisted personnel.
National Guard and Selected Reserve officers and enlisted personnel.
Officer candidates in commissioning programs (Academy, ROTC, OCS/OTS).
Former military personnel:
Retired officers and enlisted personnel.
Former officers and enlisted personnel who separated on or after 01/01/1996.
 
USAA was established by 3 officers in the 1920's as a way around high insurance costs. It extended membership to the senior enlisted ranks (E-6+) in the mid 90s as indicated above by the date of eligibility for former service members. It now appears all enlisted grades are eligible. If you were still serving in 96 you should be eligible.
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Re: Thanks [richard64] by jimbres
Jan 07, 2009 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am)

What's the hurry? The current economic climate is the worst that we've seen in a generation. There are far more new cars & trucks on lots across America than there are qualified buyers for them. It doesn't hurt your chances of getting a good deal that you're interested in a comparatively low-demand vehicle.
 
This is the definitive buyers' market. Relax & enjoy it. More promotions will be coming down the road any moment now.
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Re: Thanks [peetert] by fezo
Jan 07, 2009 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: peetert (Jan 07, 2009 9:44 am)

Thought I answered this earlier but obviously didn't...
 
Randolph is nice. My brother is in Denville and does a lot of work in Jefferson. The old family house is in Butler. I lived a bunch of years there and might end up back there. Morris county is very nice.

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