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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am)  If you don't HAVE to have a vehicle right now, then there's no rush to make a decision you might regret, especially on such a major purchase.
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 07, 2009 7:28 am) I agree, but, like someone said, “it’s what’s between the ears that count” and we better never forget that. I don’t think anyone here has said SC/TC is not good but it isn’t everything. The experience that I had when it took control of my car proved that to me. However, I’m very reluctant to turn it off, even though there is a light that warns me when its off, because I’m just paranoid enough to think that if I turn it off for a given situation it won’t be there 2 seconds later when I will need it. I’ll learn to live with it just like I had to re-teach myself not to pump my breaks but rather let the ABS system do that for me and believe me that took some doing. Knowing something about instrumentation, it’s all about how the stuff is calibrated. The auto makers won’t readily admit to this but they re-adjust those systems once they’ve obtained the empirical data from the millions of drivers out there, who are the real testers of those systems once they turn them lose on us. The manufactures don’t just relying on their initial development/track tests done during their infancy testing. The computer systems in the cars today allow for this “re-adjustment” with ease when a car is brought in for routine service that isn’t remotely related to why they came in. People get these “upgrades” all the time and if they aren’t told about it they don’t even know it was done. I’m sure our car biz guys can confirm this. I guess you can say, “what you don’t know won’t hurt you”. If I didn’t know better (then again I probably don’t), I’d say you have quite a bit of stock in the companies that make these systems or the piece parts for the Stability/Traction Control Systems and you can’t wait until they are fully mandated. jmonroe
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| Speaking of fitzmall and prices, I did use that information when negotiating on my new MS3. Fitz had it priced at $21,704 including destination. What other fees do they add to that, because I can't see how they'd make a profit otherwise. When doing the numbers, I paid $22,299, which includes $299 doc fee. This equals approximately 2.3% profit - fairly skinny deal. It's still worth the extra money for me not to need to drive to MD for a new car, though. But, it was nice to have that information available. | |
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Replying to: kiawah (Jan 07, 2009 10:21 am) |
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Replying to: percussionist (Jan 07, 2009 10:42 am) |
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Replying to: michaell (Jan 06, 2009 6:20 pm) haha, I see that more than one other person understands my natyive language. To add to the restaurant/car selling career topic... I will concur with most people here that it will be nearly impossible to do both. It's hard enough being in car sales and juggling your family time, let alone another job. Murphy's Law always makes sure that when you have a dinner reserved right after work, that a sale and delivery will "pop up" at last minute to delay you, or a test drive will come in right when you're on your way out the door to go home, or an appointment will come 2 hours late and you'll be 4 hours behind on whatever you were planning after work. If you can juggle the time then it's a good combination if you can cross-promote both businesses, especially if they're located close to each other. And quite a few people I know in the car biz who are succesful came from the resturant biz. But they did one at a time not both. Anyhow good luck. Don't tell your hiring manager that you're plaaning on running a restuarant at the same time, as they might see that you won't be 100% commited to the car sales job because of other obligations. |
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am) You have a car salesman living on the next floor?  Seriously, if you really want this car go get it. You will never get a better deal than right now. Last year I was in a similar situation. The car I wanted was available,had the right options and was the exact color. The price was at the top end of what I could afford so I wavered, worried about what I would do if I spent my limit and I hated the car 6 months down the road. I finally went ahead with the purchase and was happy. Just be sure you get it the way YOU want it. Don't skimp, don't compromise. Good luck. Come back when the deal is finished and tell us all the details so everyone can tell you what you did wrong and how you got cheated. 
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Jan 07, 2009 10:35 am) Richard |
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Replying to: percussionist (Jan 07, 2009 10:42 am) When I bought my Mitsu I called Fitzmall in Annapolis. They had a number of cars like the one I was shopping for $1000 under invoice. Unfortunately, none of them was equipped the way I wanted. They were willing to order but said the price would be invoice + $99 doc +$400 ad fee. This made it more expensive than the local dealer. I asked why the price was $1K less on the in-stock models and was told "those internet cars are all lot queens that we're trying to get rid of". I don't know how the other brands work it but the Mitsu dealer couldn't make it worth a 500 mile drive. |
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jan 06, 2009 12:08 pm) It depends on when you got out. The USAA website lists these as groups eligible for membership: Children of USAA members. Active-duty officers and enlisted personnel. National Guard and Selected Reserve officers and enlisted personnel. Officer candidates in commissioning programs (Academy, ROTC, OCS/OTS). Former military personnel: Retired officers and enlisted personnel. Former officers and enlisted personnel who separated on or after 01/01/1996. USAA was established by 3 officers in the 1920's as a way around high insurance costs. It extended membership to the senior enlisted ranks (E-6+) in the mid 90s as indicated above by the date of eligibility for former service members. It now appears all enlisted grades are eligible. If you were still serving in 96 you should be eligible. |
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