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Re: Thanks [jmonroe] by richard64
Jan 07, 2009 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jan 07, 2009 7:54 am)

Well said.
 
Richard
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Re: new car listings [deltheking] by kiawah
Jan 07, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: deltheking (Jan 07, 2009 8:42 am)

see www.fitzmall.com
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Re: Thanks [graphicguy] by richard64
Jan 07, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jan 07, 2009 7:03 am)

I know it sounds crazy, but I'm still sitting on the fence. There must be a reason for this. They say that old folks begin having trouble making decisions. I was pretty much ready to go until I began reading these posts about SC, side airbags, and finding out that Black Clearcoat brings top dollar. I certainly don't want "buyer's remorse" on my record...been there, done that. I'm going to let the Man Upstairs guide me through this. He always does.
 
Richard
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Re: Thanks [richard64] by kirstie_h HOST
Jan 07, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am)

I have a guy living in my attic too - I thought I was the only one!
 
If you don't HAVE to have a vehicle right now, then there's no rush to make a decision you might regret, especially on such a major purchase.
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Re: Thanks [driver100] by jmonroe
Jan 07, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 07, 2009 7:28 am)

It isn't fair to you or loved ones not to have these features if you are buying a new car.
 
I agree, but, like someone said, “it’s what’s between the ears that count” and we better never forget that.
 
I don’t think anyone here has said SC/TC is not good but it isn’t everything. The experience that I had when it took control of my car proved that to me. However, I’m very reluctant to turn it off, even though there is a light that warns me when its off, because I’m just paranoid enough to think that if I turn it off for a given situation it won’t be there 2 seconds later when I will need it. I’ll learn to live with it just like I had to re-teach myself not to pump my breaks but rather let the ABS system do that for me and believe me that took some doing.
 
Knowing something about instrumentation, it’s all about how the stuff is calibrated. The auto makers won’t readily admit to this but they re-adjust those systems once they’ve obtained the empirical data from the millions of drivers out there, who are the real testers of those systems once they turn them lose on us. The manufactures don’t just relying on their initial development/track tests done during their infancy testing. The computer systems in the cars today allow for this “re-adjustment” with ease when a car is brought in for routine service that isn’t remotely related to why they came in. People get these “upgrades” all the time and if they aren’t told about it they don’t even know it was done. I’m sure our car biz guys can confirm this. I guess you can say, “what you don’t know won’t hurt you”.
 
If I didn’t know better (then again I probably don’t), I’d say you have quite a bit of stock in the companies that make these systems or the piece parts for the Stability/Traction Control Systems and you can’t wait until they are fully mandated.
 
jmonroe
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Can they really do that? by percussionist
Jan 07, 2009 (10:42 am)
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Speaking of fitzmall and prices, I did use that information when negotiating on my new MS3. Fitz had it priced at $21,704 including destination. What other fees do they add to that, because I can't see how they'd make a profit otherwise. When doing the numbers, I paid $22,299, which includes $299 doc fee. This equals approximately 2.3% profit - fairly skinny deal. It's still worth the extra money for me not to need to drive to MD for a new car, though. But, it was nice to have that information available.
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Re: new car listings [kiawah] by deltheking
Jan 07, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Jan 07, 2009 10:21 am)

So far fitzmall,carmax and autotrader are the only sites I have found which have available new car listings at a good no haggle price.Any other?
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Re: Can they really do that? [percussionist] by kiawah
Jan 07, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: percussionist (Jan 07, 2009 10:42 am)

Actually, nothing extra. There is a poster over in the Toyota Camry prices that just bought one a day ago. He reported a very positive buying experience, as all others that I've seen post in these forums. Buying out of state they waive their published 99 doc fee, because the buyer handles their own doc when they get back home.
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Re: The Adventure [michaell] by boomchek
Jan 07, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: michaell (Jan 06, 2009 6:20 pm)

And you as well, boom .. let's hope 2009 is better for you than 2008
 
haha, I see that more than one other person understands my natyive language.
 
To add to the restaurant/car selling career topic...
 
I will concur with most people here that it will be nearly impossible to do both. It's hard enough being in car sales and juggling your family time, let alone another job.
 
Murphy's Law always makes sure that when you have a dinner reserved right after work, that a sale and delivery will "pop up" at last minute to delay you, or a test drive will come in right when you're on your way out the door to go home, or an appointment will come 2 hours late and you'll be 4 hours behind on whatever you were planning after work.
 
If you can juggle the time then it's a good combination if you can cross-promote both businesses, especially if they're located close to each other. And quite a few people I know in the car biz who are succesful came from the resturant biz. But they did one at a time not both.
 
Anyhow good luck. Don't tell your hiring manager that you're plaaning on running a restuarant at the same time, as they might see that you won't be 100% commited to the car sales job because of other obligations.
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Re: Thanks [richard64] by oldfarmer50
Jan 07, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am)

"...I'm going to let the Man Upstairs guide me through this..."
 
You have a car salesman living on the next floor?
 
Seriously, if you really want this car go get it. You will never get a better deal than right now. Last year I was in a similar situation. The car I wanted was available,had the right options and was the exact color. The price was at the top end of what I could afford so I wavered, worried about what I would do if I spent my limit and I hated the car 6 months down the road. I finally went ahead with the purchase and was happy.
 
Just be sure you get it the way YOU want it. Don't skimp, don't compromise. Good luck.
 
Come back when the deal is finished and tell us all the details so everyone can tell you what you did wrong and how you got cheated.

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