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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 07, 2009 7:42 am) A problem every business owner shares with car sale people. If they grind at the dealer, they'll grind everywhere. 
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 07, 2009 7:42 am) My advise for what it's worth would be not to skimp. People don't mind paying more if the quality is there. |
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Replying to: jonanong (Jan 07, 2009 12:13 am) No offense taken. I am a little concerned that you wish to conduct two careers simultaneously. Years ago, my brother was in the restaurant business. He was on site 18 hours a day for the first three years. It was a grueling experience for him. Based on what I have learned here, many of these guys are selling cars 12 and 14 hours a day. It would seem next to impossible to do both. I must say that you seem very mature and ambitious to be 21. I'm sure that you will do well, no matter what choice you make. If you listen to our regulars such as Moo, Isell, Boom, Driver, etc., you will amass a wealth of knowledge. The best part is that you can trust their opinions. Bon Appetite! Richard |
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jan 07, 2009 7:54 am) Richard |
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Replying to: deltheking (Jan 07, 2009 8:42 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jan 07, 2009 7:03 am) Richard
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am)  If you don't HAVE to have a vehicle right now, then there's no rush to make a decision you might regret, especially on such a major purchase.
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 07, 2009 7:28 am) I agree, but, like someone said, “it’s what’s between the ears that count” and we better never forget that. I don’t think anyone here has said SC/TC is not good but it isn’t everything. The experience that I had when it took control of my car proved that to me. However, I’m very reluctant to turn it off, even though there is a light that warns me when its off, because I’m just paranoid enough to think that if I turn it off for a given situation it won’t be there 2 seconds later when I will need it. I’ll learn to live with it just like I had to re-teach myself not to pump my breaks but rather let the ABS system do that for me and believe me that took some doing. Knowing something about instrumentation, it’s all about how the stuff is calibrated. The auto makers won’t readily admit to this but they re-adjust those systems once they’ve obtained the empirical data from the millions of drivers out there, who are the real testers of those systems once they turn them lose on us. The manufactures don’t just relying on their initial development/track tests done during their infancy testing. The computer systems in the cars today allow for this “re-adjustment” with ease when a car is brought in for routine service that isn’t remotely related to why they came in. People get these “upgrades” all the time and if they aren’t told about it they don’t even know it was done. I’m sure our car biz guys can confirm this. I guess you can say, “what you don’t know won’t hurt you”. If I didn’t know better (then again I probably don’t), I’d say you have quite a bit of stock in the companies that make these systems or the piece parts for the Stability/Traction Control Systems and you can’t wait until they are fully mandated. jmonroe
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| Speaking of fitzmall and prices, I did use that information when negotiating on my new MS3. Fitz had it priced at $21,704 including destination. What other fees do they add to that, because I can't see how they'd make a profit otherwise. When doing the numbers, I paid $22,299, which includes $299 doc fee. This equals approximately 2.3% profit - fairly skinny deal. It's still worth the extra money for me not to need to drive to MD for a new car, though. But, it was nice to have that information available. | |
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