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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [roadburner] by jipster
Jan 05, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 04, 2009 7:31 pm)

. The X5 got quite a bit sideways and the DSC, apparently flustered by the speed, steering angle, and yaw rate, ramped the throttle way back. As in OFF.
 
Wow... sounds like this would be a great investigative story for Edmunds. i.e "Pro's and Cons of Stability Control... Stories of Life and Near Death".
 
Also sounds like if you are traveling in ice, rain or snow, it would be better to turn the stability control off.
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Re: The Adventure [graphicguy] by mikefm58
Jan 05, 2009 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jan 05, 2009 11:29 am)

Oh man, the heart just breaks for people like that. Good for you for helping him out.
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Re: The Adventure [richard64] by gogiboy
Jan 05, 2009 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 04, 2009 8:17 am)

"Let's see now. You have four choices. "Loaver" is the Italian spelling for "loafer"? The letter "V" is just below the letter "F" on the keyboard."
 
Richard--
 
I think a better--and more snide--remark to isell's inquiry was that you were wearing your best pair of Focaccias, a huge "step up" from those "pedestrian" Guccis worn by Grand Merc.-owning poseurs in Seattle.
 
It's better to bombard those west-coasters with cliches and puns about walking and footwear.
 
My late father-in-law's last GM was a rather ghastly dark bluish purple. I think your black one sounds much better--kind of like the Green Hornet's Black Beauty. Now there was a land yacht!
 
Gogiboy
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Re: The Adventure [richard64] by gogiboy
Jan 05, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 04, 2009 10:21 am)

Richard, et al--
 
The following was pulled from Bankrate.com's website:
 
"The three national credit bureaus have developed a rival to the well-known FICO credit score. The credit bureaus say their scoring model will be easier for consumers to understand and will offer more consistent scores. But it's too soon to say whether lenders will embrace it...he product, called VantageScore, is the result of a joint venture of Equifax, Experian and TransUnion, the three national credit bureaus. Representatives from the three companies say VantageScore will have an intuitive scale -- from a low of 501 (reflecting absolutely horrible credit history) to 990 (the credit equivalent of getting straight A's from kindergarten through college)."
 
I'm guessing that Richard's Trans Union score reflects the changes listed above. I also thought Richard would appreciate associating his credit score with getting superior grades.
 
Gogiboy
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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [jimbres] by jipster
Jan 05, 2009 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Jan 05, 2009 7:35 am)

but if you're shopping for a new car, don't you want the benefit of the latest safety technology
 
Sure, I would want all the new safty features, S/C and curtain airbags. But, I think there is a bit of misinformation on how well S/C operates. There are many well documented cases here that S/C can sometimes lead to an accident. I've never read of seat belts or air bags being a contributing cause of an accident.
 
Like someone wrote before, people in trucks and SUV's seem to end up in ditches more often than sedans when the weather turns inclement. They think they are invincible in snow with their monster SUV's. People who don't educate themselves on limits of these various safety factors are putting themselves and other at risk.
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Re: The Adventure [graphicguy] by jimbres
Jan 05, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jan 05, 2009 11:29 am)

I gave him my spare key and told him it's there for him to use, whenever he needs it. Just park it in my driveway when he's finished, and to hold onto the key in case he needs it again. No need to ask.
 
That's decent of you. We'll get through these hard times if we watch out for one another.
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doesn't look like it was a December to remember.. by golic
Jan 05, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Kathryn Elizabeth Tuggle
FOXBusiness
 
Auto sales data for the month of December and for 2008 were reported on Monday -- with dismal results, as predicted, not just from the Big Three Detroit auto makers, but from non-U.S. car makers as well.
 
Dearborn Michigan-based Ford Motor was the first to report today, with December sales down 32.4% year over year. For 2008, Ford was down 21% compared with last year’s results. Ford sold 138,458 light vehicles in the U.S. last month, down from 204,787 in December 2007. For 2008, Ford sold 2 million cars, down by about 500,000 from the year prior.
 
At Toyota Motor results were even worse. December sales were down 37%, while sales for the full year were down 16%.
 
At General Motors sales were down 31% for December. For 2008, sales were down 23%.
 
Subaru was the bright spot reporting a gain of 0.3% for 2008 overall. However, Subaru’s sales were down 7.7% for the month of December. Subaru’s lack of losses is due in large part to its lack of overall penetration into the U.S. marketplace -- it sold fewer than 200,000 cars in the U.S. last year.
 
Sales at Volkswagen also took a hit of 14.4% in December and 3.2% for the year ended 200
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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [jipster] by jimbres
Jan 05, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Jan 05, 2009 11:55 am)

People who don't educate themselves on limits of these various safety factors are putting themselves and other at risk.
 
I strongly agree. In the end, the most important safety device is located between the driver's ears.
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Re: The Adventure [bksward] by joel0622
Jan 05, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: bksward (Jan 04, 2009 10:40 am)

It would not be an exageration to say I have pulled 1000's of bureaus over the years and every single one of them from the highest to the lowest have the same 4 bullett comments on them.
 
Proportion of balance to high credit on bank or revolving
 
Length of time accounts have been established
 
Amount owed on revolving accounts to high
 
To many accounts with balances.
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Re: doesn't look like it was a December to remember.. [golic] by joel0622
Jan 05, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: golic (Jan 05, 2009 12:02 pm)

But our Market Share was up year over year. First time in awhile that has happened.
 
That means there may not be as many people buying cars right now but of those who are more of them are buying Fords.

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