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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [richard64] by jimbres
Jan 05, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 05, 2009 9:09 am)

Perhaps I was misinformed, but the GSM told me the other day that SC is standard on the LS/GM's for '09 and was an option on the '08's.
 
Well, I don't see either side-curtain air bags or stability control listed as features - standard or optional - for the GM on Mercury's own web site, which shows both as standard equipment on the Sable.
 
Does your GSM know something that Mercury's webmaster doesn't?
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Re: The Adventure [graphicguy] by richard64
Jan 05, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jan 05, 2009 7:19 am)

That's a terrible thing to happen to your neighbor. Another tragedy is that he was careful with his money---buying cars off lease, no McMansion, etc. Having to call his child home from Loyola is another sad moment. You're right. Loyola is expensive to attend.
 
It's going on all over. One of my best friends (age 62) three years from his retirement just got terminated from one of the last Hanes plants. His two year old Jag was repo'ed Christmas Eve. On top of that, his pension is no more---according to the Hanes home office. His wife lost her job last June. On Monday after Christmas, she took her SUV to Carmax and got $4,500 for it. So sad. They are driving one of his brother's cars now. They still have three years left on the mortgage. My wife and I held back tears as they related what had happened. As a textile man for 40 years, he knows nothing else. His wife was a bank manager---so much for that. He won't swallow his pride and file for unemployment. I told him not to feel guilty. He paid his taxes for 40 years. He's entitled to it. Each morning I realize how blessed I am.
 
History does repeat itself. In 1929 my mother was called home from her second year at Agnes Scott in Georgia. My grandfather went to the bank to pull out his savings, only to find the doors padlocked. He lost his dairy business. My grandmother took in sewing and my mother got a job at the 5&10 cent store---for those of you who may know what they were. She married my father in 1933 who also had to drop out of school. He found a job hauling produce from Florida to New York. She used to joke about how they spent their honeymoon in New York---sleeping in the truck with the oranges and grapefruit. Still, they lived through it all---and had ME. That alone was worse than the Great Depression! Our friends and neighbors will make it. There is a silver lining out there some where.
 
Richard
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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [jimbres] by richard64
Jan 05, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Jan 05, 2009 9:38 am)

Well, I just don't know. I appreciate your looking into it. The window sticker doesn't mention it either. Seems odd that they wouldn't have it on the luxury model, doesn't it?
 
Richard
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Re: The Adventure [bksward] by richard64
Jan 05, 2009 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: bksward (Jan 04, 2009 10:40 am)

Thanks for the information on the credit reports. It does make sense when you think about it.
 
Richard
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Making ends meet by tidester HOST
Jan 05, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Do any of you know people struggling to meet their obligations? They may be interested in the new Making Car Payments in Hard Times discussion.
 
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Re: The Adventure [mikefm58] by graphicguy
Jan 05, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Jan 05, 2009 8:56 am)

mikefm...I wondered the same thing...how do you get your vehicles "repo-ed" if they were financed with a home equity. In all honesty, I didn't question him. I didn't ask, nor did I want to know the gory details. He was obviously embarrassed enough having the repo guys come to his driveway.
 
I don't know if was mistaken in what he was telling me. Or, if there's a part of the story I just may have missed. He was pretty distraught.
 
I'm certain there's some details there that I'm not privy to. Moreover, I'm not sure I need to know. He's a good person (so is his wife and daughter) that bad things happened to. I've known this family for over a decade. They are all just very, very decent people. They were never ones to fall into the gossipy type of behavior that most neighbors fall into. Never heard any of them say one negative thing, about anyone, for any reason.
 
He's the kind of neighbor that if he was outside, seeing my son and I shoveling snow, he'd pitch in and help. If he saw me sitting on my porch, he always made a point of coming over just to say hello, and ask how my son and I were doing.
 
He came to my door this weekend and asked to borrow my Tahoe. He started to explain what he needed it for. I stopped him and said I needed no explanation. I gave him my spare key and told him it's there for him to use, whenever he needs it. Just park it in my driveway when he's finished, and to hold onto the key in case he needs it again. No need to ask.
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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [roadburner] by jipster
Jan 05, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 04, 2009 7:31 pm)

. The X5 got quite a bit sideways and the DSC, apparently flustered by the speed, steering angle, and yaw rate, ramped the throttle way back. As in OFF.
 
Wow... sounds like this would be a great investigative story for Edmunds. i.e "Pro's and Cons of Stability Control... Stories of Life and Near Death".
 
Also sounds like if you are traveling in ice, rain or snow, it would be better to turn the stability control off.
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Re: The Adventure [graphicguy] by mikefm58
Jan 05, 2009 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Jan 05, 2009 11:29 am)

Oh man, the heart just breaks for people like that. Good for you for helping him out.
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Re: The Adventure [richard64] by gogiboy
Jan 05, 2009 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 04, 2009 8:17 am)

"Let's see now. You have four choices. "Loaver" is the Italian spelling for "loafer"? The letter "V" is just below the letter "F" on the keyboard."
 
Richard--
 
I think a better--and more snide--remark to isell's inquiry was that you were wearing your best pair of Focaccias, a huge "step up" from those "pedestrian" Guccis worn by Grand Merc.-owning poseurs in Seattle.
 
It's better to bombard those west-coasters with cliches and puns about walking and footwear.
 
My late father-in-law's last GM was a rather ghastly dark bluish purple. I think your black one sounds much better--kind of like the Green Hornet's Black Beauty. Now there was a land yacht!
 
Gogiboy
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Re: The Adventure [richard64] by gogiboy
Jan 05, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 04, 2009 10:21 am)

Richard, et al--
 
The following was pulled from Bankrate.com's website:
 
"The three national credit bureaus have developed a rival to the well-known FICO credit score. The credit bureaus say their scoring model will be easier for consumers to understand and will offer more consistent scores. But it's too soon to say whether lenders will embrace it...he product, called VantageScore, is the result of a joint venture of Equifax, Experian and TransUnion, the three national credit bureaus. Representatives from the three companies say VantageScore will have an intuitive scale -- from a low of 501 (reflecting absolutely horrible credit history) to 990 (the credit equivalent of getting straight A's from kindergarten through college)."
 
I'm guessing that Richard's Trans Union score reflects the changes listed above. I also thought Richard would appreciate associating his credit score with getting superior grades.
 
Gogiboy

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