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Re: The Adventure [richard64] by driver100
Jan 04, 2009 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 03, 2009 9:35 pm)

Several of you responded to my post regarding my potential purchase of an LS Grand Marquis.
 
Thanks for sharing your experience Richard. I understand your fascination with those big American made land cruisers.....they were the cars we always wanted to own growing up. Sometimes I see one and think what a great buy, all that metal and comfort for mid $20,000 range - it is hard to pass up. I can understand giving up stability control if this is your dream car.
 
Like bolivar said, I don't see why Ford didn't anticipate a demand for black, after all that is where these cars really sell, limos, and funeral homes, and I guess taxis though they will have the plastic seats and will be yellow usually.
 
Just a suggestion but maybe you should go on line and see if there is a black one available at the right price in your area. It would just tell you if the dealer is on the level about this statement.
 
I think you have thought this car through very well and I hope you get what you want. And, I think they were extremely generous with your trade in - I don't think they'll get that much for it when they sell it.
 
Also a good question for the pros. What is the best way to dress when shopping for a car? Does the type of car you are looking for make a difference? What do you look for in potential customers as far as clothes are concerned? Does too much jewellery mean he's got money? I usually wear pants with holes, running shoes that are falling apart, torn shirt, tell them we need a new car but we'll have to give up dinners 3 times a week. (then head off to the BMW dealer)
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Re: I love the idiot buyers... [joel0622] by greanpea68
Jan 04, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 02, 2009 11:06 am)

It is the only place in the world where people will think that you can divide $30K by 60 and come up with $400 a month.
 
ROFLMAO....
 
You could have easily said $250- $300
 
GP
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Re: The Adventure [driver100] by richard64
Jan 04, 2009 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 04, 2009 5:36 am)

I can understand why you and bolivar were surprised about the black GM demanding top price. I was surprised as well. None of my research indicated this. I do believe the GSM and I'll tell you why. I just got off the phone with an old friend who sold his Ford dealership about three years ago. His place was where we used to live and I had his children in school many years ago. He said that he could never keep a black GM on the lot. In fact, many of them were special orders. The service industry used them and would always pay top dollar.
 
Also, I went to Autotrader a few minutes ago and plugged in all GM's within 300 miles of where I now live. Out of 261 GM's, only two were black. Both cars were 2008's and had above average mileage. Service industry cars? Perhaps. Based on these observations, I have to believe that the GSM was truthful. To bolivar: The dealer that I visited yesterday did have the black GM sitting on the lot. It wasn't as if he didn't have my color. BTW, the 2009's do have stabilizer control now.
 
As to your question posed to the pros regarding appropriate dress, we have had that lengthy discussion here before. The opinions were mixed, but most salesmen agreed that it wasn't a top priority.
 
Thanks for your good wishes and for understanding the mindset of the Tanker Generation.
 
Richard
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Re: The Adventure [richard64] by oldfarmer50
Jan 04, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 03, 2009 9:35 pm)

"...In remembrance of oldfarmer, I wore my hand made Italian LOAVERS..."
 
Was that to show the salesman you had enough bread to buy the car?
 
BTW, how do you have a 976 credit score? The highest I've seen on any of the big 3 is 950.
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Re: The Adventure [bolivar] by snakeweasel
Jan 04, 2009 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: bolivar (Jan 04, 2009 12:32 am)

I would think these businesses would also be affected by the overall downturn, and not be in a strong buying position for replacement cars.
 
Well I won't speak for car service companies, but as for funeral homes people don't stop dying simply because the economy goes bad.
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Re: yesterday's story [volvomax] by qbrozen
Jan 04, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 03, 2009 12:26 pm)

Generally speaking, BHPH lots don't report to the credit bureaus.
 
Oh... huh. Didn't realize that. The man did say he would be using a bank ... but, and I didn't think about this at the time, that does defy the whole BHPH thing, doesn't it? Weird. Is it possible he does business 2 different ways? I don't know why he would. Maybe he really isn't a BHPH, but just has that on his sign?? I dunno.
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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [bolivar] by qbrozen
Jan 04, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: bolivar (Jan 04, 2009 12:33 am)

Not counting snow or ice on the roads, how many people have actually got their auto to activate the traction or stability control?
 
Mine kicks in on a very regular basis. Do I think its necessary on those occassions? No. I attribute this to overly aggressive systems. For the life of me, for instance, I can't figure out why my G35X flashes the traction light and cuts power to the wheels when accelerating at half throttle through a turn in 2nd gear at 20 mph. This also happened all the time with both my 350Z and Honda Accord. At least with those I can understand that I may have spun the tires a tad without the TCS ... but the X? No way. I autoX this car and I know what it takes to spin the tires. I come nowhere near that on public roads, yet that light flashes at me at least once a day.
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Re: The Adventure [richard64] by isellhondas
Jan 04, 2009 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 03, 2009 9:35 pm)

One question, English Professor...
 
What are "hand made Italian loavers" ?
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Re: The Adventure [oldfarmer50] by richard64
Jan 04, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 04, 2009 6:46 am)

"BTW, how do you have a 976 credit score?"
 
I must say that I was surprised myself when I ordered it. I had not ordered one in two years. Scores now go up to 990. They said that I was in the 98th percentile. I had three negatives which I don't really understand. They said that my available credit limits were too low. That's BS I think. I only have two credit cards. One has available credit at $52,000 and the other one has a cap of $25,000. Why would I need or want more?
 
The other negative said that my balances were too high compared to their credit limits. That is also BS. I pay off my balances each month when the bills come. A final note said that there were too many inquiries on my credit report. Who is inquiring for heaven's sake? Also, with those three negatives, how can my score be 976? I've been meaning to contact them but just haven't had time. Credit reports are strange animals to read and interpret. BTW, this report was ordered from TransUnion.
 
Richard
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Re: Traction Control/Stability Control [bolivar] by oldfarmer50
Jan 04, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: bolivar (Jan 04, 2009 12:33 am)

"...have actually got their auto to activate the traction or stability control..."
 
On dry pavement I can chirp the tires without the TC coming on. I think I remember once under full throttle it came on as I was really hauling a$$. I always thought traction control was more for wet/snow control than anything else. Don't have SC.

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