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Re: ad cars [richard64] by graphicguy
Jan 03, 2009 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 03, 2009 1:12 am)

richard....go get'em. You are prepared "Grasshopper".
 
Regarding those Gr Marquis, even the '96 I sold for my Mother handled fine....12 year old car, based on an old (but updated) platform.
 
In my brief time driving the GM, I began to appreciate what it is those cars can do. You're not going to win any autox events with them. You aren't going to win any stop light wars with them either (unless you're up against a hybrid).
 
What they do, they do well. That is, driving in comfort, with easy power, and just enough handling to keep you out of trouble. They drive "EASY", if that makes any sense. That '96 would crack 22 MPG, so the new ones should be able to do better than that. RWD handling (which is a good thing), anti-lock (another good thing). Ford's been making them long enough that build quality is very good. As good as my Tahoe is in the open road, the Merc was just as capable.
 
I would have kept the '96, if I had a couple fewer cars in the GG stable.
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Re: My most recent buying experience... [bismarck] by driver100
Jan 03, 2009 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: bismarck (Jan 03, 2009 7:23 am)

I happened to come across a used low mile 2005 X5 V8 with all the toys at a GMC store.
 
Thanks for sharing your story bis...it was fascinating. You made a gutsy move by buying the car before it was detailed....although as you say, it might be better to see it that way. Also, you probably got a better price on it since it didn't sit around too long. Would this have happened at a non B3 store?......I seem to doubt it. Sounds like a dealer that is really struggling to stick around.
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Re: My most recent buying experience... [bismarck] by joel0622
Jan 03, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: bismarck (Jan 03, 2009 7:23 am)

What did the drunk guy say when he called?
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Re: My most recent buying experience... [joel0622] by madmanmoo
Jan 03, 2009 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 03, 2009 7:56 am)

Wow, ahahaha. Drunk dialing a customer. That's priceless.
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Re: ad cars [driver100] by jimbres
Jan 03, 2009 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 03, 2009 7:25 am)

Traction control, while certainly useful, is not the same thing. Stability control detects & helps prevent loss of control due to skidding, while traction control combats drive wheel slippage.
 
Most stability control systems also include traction control. I believe that this is true of Ford's AdvanceTrac system.
 
Some experts have called stability control the most significant automotive safety development since the seat belt. Federal regs will mandate it in all new cars sold in the U.S. beginning in 2012. I wouldn't consider a car that lacked it.
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Re: ad cars [jimbres] by graphicguy
Jan 03, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Jan 03, 2009 8:32 am)

No doubt stability control is worthwhile. However, it's still not going to save from stupidity.
 
Maybe it's because I've driven some cars with nothing more than a steering wheel, gas pedal and a brake pedal to control the car (on less than sterling tires), but there are few cars that I couldn't control in the wet stuff. I'll make special exemptions for some sports cars with sport treads on them.
 
Even the 12 year old Merc GM was relatively easy to control in what's amounted to about the only real snow we've had in SW OH (so far).
 
Maybe it's because I've had experience driving these beasts. But, I certainly wouldn't fret driving a Gr Marquis at all (particularly a new one) in inclement weather, regardless of stability control.
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Re: Gotta Question [madmanmoo] by greanpea68
Jan 03, 2009 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Jan 02, 2009 6:03 am)

You have suffered no damages. No one was rude to you. No one stole from you. With all that being said, you're obviously in no danger of buying a vehicle.
 
"This person is no danger of buying a vehicle today"
 
One of my favorite things to say to management after I qualify someone in 3 minutes
 
Hope everyone had a great new year..... Myself I stayed off the sauce and performed the duties of Designated test driver....
 
GP
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Re: No Call Back [jmonroe] by greanpea68
Jan 03, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Jan 02, 2009 7:54 am)

He’ll probably move onto a Nissan product.
 
I caught that JM.....
 
GP
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Re: ad cars [richard64] by jipster
Jan 03, 2009 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: richard64 (Jan 03, 2009 1:12 am)

I've completed my three months of research and my one year training at Edmunds. I am now ready to do battle for the LS/GM. Besides, rebates end Monday and I don't have time to go back and forth via internet. Let me at those boys!
 
You are ready to fly the nest richard, I've taught you everything I know, which some (isell) will tell you is substantial.
 
Remember, use the "Jipst Method" and you will soar like an eagle... then swoop down to club them like a baby seal. I know you will make "Team Jipster" proud, all 2 or 3 of us... what with the economy, membership dues and all. Good luck.
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ANOTHER DEALER GOES BUST by otto8
Jan 03, 2009 (10:45 am)
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A local mega dealer has had another setback and is about to lose its Chevy/Buick
franchise. Dealmaker auto group aka Seaway Chev./Buick in northern NY is in default with GMAC.
http://www.newzjunky.com/court/1224dealmaker.htm
 
A few months ago they closed their Ford store in suburban Syracuse NY.
Funny that all the used cars are gone but the lot is loaded with new Ford
cars and trucks as well as a KR and Cobra stangs buried in the snow
out front. This is the 6th Ford dealer to either go broke or take a buyout
from Ford in the Syracuse area.
http://www.syracuse.com/business/index.ssf?/base/business-14/122605180193340.xml- &coll=1
 
A local longtime (1948) single prop. family Linc/Merc. dealer in another upscale
Syr. burb. of Manlius took a FoMoCo buy out and sold their prime location
for a strip mall/drug store instead of building a new building/service dept.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-187744842.html

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