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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [mcdawgg] by dino001
Dec 12, 2008 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Dec 11, 2008 8:02 pm)

Toyota has a mild case of GMnitis. Nowhere near GM, of course, but they are not without real problems - their profitability also fell dramatically, not only sales. In quest for number 1 they lost a little quality (too quick absorption of suppliers without full integration of quality) and succumbed a little to big cash-back trap.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [dino001] by joel0622
Dec 12, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Dec 12, 2008 5:35 am)

Exactly Dino, I was really suprised that they did not learn from the mistakes of those before them. Being the biggest cost allot more. They keep trying to get in the truck biz but are making the same mistakes as allot of us have. They are selling the programs instead of the trucks.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [joel0622] by driver100
Dec 12, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Dec 12, 2008 6:15 am)

Exactly Dino, I was really suprised that they did not learn from the mistakes of those before them.
 
Just read a business article about the largest media company in Canada which is really suffering after buying too many TV and radio stations as well as a national newspaper which has become a money pit. One businessman was quoted as saying, "The trouble with building an empire is that they never last". Seems the #1 always gets knocked off eventually.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [mcdawgg] by chikoo
Dec 12, 2008 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Dec 11, 2008 8:02 pm)

>I saw that Honda is dropping out of F1 racing, but Toyota is not. That seems very strange, considering Honda is supposedly the "sportier" car make?
 
It got out of F1 all that it needed. For now, at least. I am sure they will return when improvements in engine technology are visible.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [driver100] by chikoo
Dec 12, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 12, 2008 6:24 am)

>"The trouble with building an empire is that they never last"
 
Which is why most Tribes in places like Afghanistan, Northern Pakistan or Iraq are not much interested in being part of a huge government. Their tribes seems to last longer than any government empire
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [dino001] by graphicguy
Dec 12, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Dec 12, 2008 5:35 am)

dino....I'm with you regarding Toyota. They've been so focused on overtaking GM, they lost site of their bread and butter. That is making reliable (albeit a bit boring) cars.
 
They also went the way of GM in making trucks/SUVs so much of their product lineup, they're having difficulty moving them.
 
Quality has slipped, too.
 
Not that any of that can't be reversed. And, they do have cash. But, it's not all "peaches and cream" for them.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [graphicguy] by driver100
Dec 12, 2008 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 12, 2008 8:18 am)

RE: Toyota - They've been so focused on overtaking GM,
 
The thing is any time a company expands that rapidly they will make some mistakes, some stuff just falls betweeen the cracks. Also, they don't care as much because they are selling more than they ever did. Increasing sales is good, but trying to maintain the quality is often impossible. Overall, they have done amazingly well, considering their rapid growth, and it is just the normal course of events when a company grows rapidly, not ideal, but expected.
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I have an interesting one by dhamilton
Dec 12, 2008 (8:45 am)
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This happened yesterday, about 11:00 AM. I up a guy and his wife on the lot, he says he only has so much time to demo because he promised to take his wife shopping.
 
He wants a new 09 A4 blk/tan with nothing but premium, blue tooth, and wood package. Now this is a hard car to find, so I pull up the closest thing I have. He asks me about deals, and I give him the national advertised specials. All very broad, and nothing specific. He won't drive the car, he just leaves me his # and asks me to find him one just how he wants it.
 
I locate one in state, and give him a couple of hours to do his shopping, and then leave him a message saying I found car, but the most important thing is that he come in, and let me do a proper demo so that he feels like this is the right car.
 
He say's I don't need to drive it, I just need the deal you said. 0 down $429.00 a month. I respond, sir I never said there was a car available for that price, I said there are some lease specials with tax credits, blah, blah blah.
 
At this point he starts going coo coo for co co puffs on the phone. Screaming about how he is "no one to "F" with, and he know's people, and I better get ready, because it's gonna come down on me".
 
I stay very calm and say sir, I don't appreciate being cussed at, maybe we should talk when you are a little more calm. How about I have my manager call you?
 
He goes in to the same rant, and then when my manager calls, he gives him the same screaming, cussing routine. He says he's recording everything, and we better get ready because it's gonna come down on us.
 
Ah, the holiday spirit is in the air.
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Re: I have an interesting one [dhamilton] by speterson1
Dec 12, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Dec 12, 2008 8:45 am)

Jeez, chalk up another one (along with about 500 posts before this one) that makes me appreciate my nice, non-sales related job!
 
I can't even figure out why he is infuriated with you...I guess b/c you couldn't immediately agree with the number he pulled out of the air??
 
Good grief.
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Re: I have an interesting one [speterson1] by joel0622
Dec 12, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: speterson1 (Dec 12, 2008 8:55 am)

I don't go a week to ten days with out getting some one like that. My favorites are the ones when some one calls me and chews me out because another dealership charged them a double digit rate. It is amazing how many people think we all work for Ford and are all business associates.
 
Hell I have got it from people on this site before who will go off for no reason.

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