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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [graphicguy] by mcdawgg
Dec 11, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 11, 2008 12:46 pm)

" I feel Ford and Honda are in the best shape. "
 
Don't forget Toyota, they practically have enough money in the bank to buy both Ford and Honda.
 
I saw that Honda is dropping out of F1 racing, but Toyota is not. That seems very strange, considering Honda is supposedly the "sportier" car make?
 
Picked up some oil filters the other day at the Toyota parts dept., and asked the parts guy about sales. He said new car sales were a little slow, but they were doing great, considering the economy sucks! He said Corolla, Camry, and Yaris sales were UP for this dealer, compared to last year.
 
All this said, you really have to look at total US sales, and Nov. sales were down about 30% for all three - Toyota, Honda, and Ford. I am sure someone can get the exact numbers.
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Re: The Shining [traindriver] by imidazol97
Dec 12, 2008 (5:07 am)
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Replying to: traindriver (Dec 11, 2008 7:40 pm)

>Realizing that there are a ton of movies out there that I have missed, I am tempted to get a Netflix membership.
 
Our library system has DVDs of most older movies and new ones fairly quickly. We just pick them up them and watch them or whatever.
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Re: The Shining [imidazol97] by kiawah
Dec 12, 2008 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 12, 2008 5:07 am)

If you are thinking about Netflix, then also investigate Blockbuster's online plan which you will probably find better. In addition to returning by mail, Blockbuster allows you to drop off at the store and they'll scan as returned, which then puts you back in the queue to have the warehouse send you your next in queue. This eliminates mail delays in getting the DVD back to Blockbuster before they send you the next. I just throw them in the outdoor return slot. I usually receive a new mailing shipped in 24 hrs of drop off, and received the following day.
 
Also, depending on your plan, you will get some number of free rentals at the store. Just take your online DVD up to the register with a new rental from the store, and you checkout for free. I get 5 free rentals a month.
 
Now to keep this on topic.......as you are out driving in your new wheels or on a test drive, if you regularly pass or are near a BB store this is a better plan than Netflix. If you are out in the boonies and only do mail, then the plans would be equivalent.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [mcdawgg] by dino001
Dec 12, 2008 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Dec 11, 2008 8:02 pm)

Toyota has a mild case of GMnitis. Nowhere near GM, of course, but they are not without real problems - their profitability also fell dramatically, not only sales. In quest for number 1 they lost a little quality (too quick absorption of suppliers without full integration of quality) and succumbed a little to big cash-back trap.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [dino001] by joel0622
Dec 12, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Dec 12, 2008 5:35 am)

Exactly Dino, I was really suprised that they did not learn from the mistakes of those before them. Being the biggest cost allot more. They keep trying to get in the truck biz but are making the same mistakes as allot of us have. They are selling the programs instead of the trucks.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [joel0622] by driver100
Dec 12, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Dec 12, 2008 6:15 am)

Exactly Dino, I was really suprised that they did not learn from the mistakes of those before them.
 
Just read a business article about the largest media company in Canada which is really suffering after buying too many TV and radio stations as well as a national newspaper which has become a money pit. One businessman was quoted as saying, "The trouble with building an empire is that they never last". Seems the #1 always gets knocked off eventually.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [mcdawgg] by chikoo
Dec 12, 2008 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Dec 11, 2008 8:02 pm)

>I saw that Honda is dropping out of F1 racing, but Toyota is not. That seems very strange, considering Honda is supposedly the "sportier" car make?
 
It got out of F1 all that it needed. For now, at least. I am sure they will return when improvements in engine technology are visible.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [driver100] by chikoo
Dec 12, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 12, 2008 6:24 am)

>"The trouble with building an empire is that they never last"
 
Which is why most Tribes in places like Afghanistan, Northern Pakistan or Iraq are not much interested in being part of a huge government. Their tribes seems to last longer than any government empire
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [dino001] by graphicguy
Dec 12, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Dec 12, 2008 5:35 am)

dino....I'm with you regarding Toyota. They've been so focused on overtaking GM, they lost site of their bread and butter. That is making reliable (albeit a bit boring) cars.
 
They also went the way of GM in making trucks/SUVs so much of their product lineup, they're having difficulty moving them.
 
Quality has slipped, too.
 
Not that any of that can't be reversed. And, they do have cash. But, it's not all "peaches and cream" for them.
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Re: Late Night with Conan O'Brian [graphicguy] by driver100
Dec 12, 2008 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Dec 12, 2008 8:18 am)

RE: Toyota - They've been so focused on overtaking GM,
 
The thing is any time a company expands that rapidly they will make some mistakes, some stuff just falls betweeen the cracks. Also, they don't care as much because they are selling more than they ever did. Increasing sales is good, but trying to maintain the quality is often impossible. Overall, they have done amazingly well, considering their rapid growth, and it is just the normal course of events when a company grows rapidly, not ideal, but expected.

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